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Dear All
Can you help please locate someone who appears in the 1881 census, who is shown as married in 1882, but cannot find her from 1891 onwards? I have checked deaths and cannot find anything either.

Details are:
SARAH OAKLEY b. 1862 staffordshire:-
1881 census as follows

OAKLEY, Joseph Head Married M 39 1842 Coal Miner
Croseley
Staffordshire VIEW
OAKLEY, Subia Wife Married F 39 1842
Blind Croseley
Staffordshire VIEW
**OAKLEY, Sarah Daughter Single F 19 1862 Cotton Mill
Croseley
Staffordshire VIEW
OAKLEY, Elizh Daughter Single F 17 1864 Cotton Mill
Croseley
Staffordshire VIEW
OAKLEY, John Son Single M 14 1867 Coal Miner
Croseley
Staffordshire VIEW
OAKLEY, Joseph Son Single M 11 1870 Coal Miner
Croseley
Staffordshire VIEW
OAKLEY, Embah Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Croseley
Staffordshire VIEW
OAKLEY, Euneas Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Croseley
Staffordshire VIEW
OAKLEY, William Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Croseley
Staffordshire VIEW
OAKLEY, Joshua Son Single M 1 1880 Infant
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
***OAKLEY, James Guest Son Single M 1 1880 Infant
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
RANGLER, Samuel Father In Law Married M 60 1821 Coal Miner
Sedgley
Staffordshire VIEW
RANGLER, Eliza Mother In Law Married F 60 1821
Sedgley
Staffordshire VIEW
RANGLER, Samuel Grand Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Sedgley
Staffordshire VIEW
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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
3811 Folio:
10 Page:
15
129, Sale Lane, Tyldesley With Shackerley County:
Lancashire

I have found that Sarah married a RICHARD GUEST in 1882 at TYLDESLEY, LANCS.
And I believe JAMES GUEST OAKLEY aged 1 should be GRANDSON, not Son as he could be Sarah's Son really with the marriage I found.

In 1891 the family are there but without SARAH OAKLEY who would be 29 and the lad JAMES GUEST OAKLEY who would now be 11 and in 1901 the family are still there at the same address but with a new Graddaughter named Sarah ALice Guest aged 6 (but no mention of SARAH or HUBBY RICHARD GUEST.....

Can anyone help or shed any light please?

Many thanks
Lorraine

:-)

Is this not her ?


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Deaths Sep 1893
Guest Sarah - 31 - Birmingham 6d 126

Hi
I didn't have her linked to Birmingham....but can we see her living in Birmingham with Richard Guest maybe in 1891? and where is James...can we see him in Birmingham maybe?

Thanks
LOrraine

There's this:
Deaths Jun 1895
Guest Richard 46 Leigh 8c 168
Guest Sara 34 Leigh 8c 178

Do you know Richard's occupation or anything about him?

Maureen

Births Mar 1895 (>99%)
Guest Sarah Alice Leigh 8c 355
The district Leigh spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater Manchester and Lancashire

reg.dist. is Leigh for this birth!

Oh, hello again Maureen :-)

~~~~~~~~to Catherine. :-)

Maureen

??

1901

GUEST, Richard Head Married M 41 1860 Coal Miner "hewer"
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
GUEST, Martha Wife Married F 38 1863
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
>>>>GUEST, James Son Single M 21 1880 Coal Miner "hewer"
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
GUEST, William Son Single M 18 1883 Coal Miner "hewer"
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
GUEST, Thomas Son Single M 16 1885 Drawer Underground
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
GUEST, Joseph Son Single M 11 1890
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
3598 Folio:
51 Page:
32

Registration District:
Leigh Sub District:
Atherton Enumeration District:
20 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Mosley Common St John's

Civil Parish:
Tyldesley with Shackerley Municipal Borough:
Address:
110, Sale Lane, Tyldesley With Shackerley County:
Lancashire




Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
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>>>>BRAY Martha Leigh 8c 450
>>>>Guest Richard Leigh 8c 450
Smith Sarah Leigh 8c 450
Williams Samuel Leigh 8c 450

Could this be them?

1891
Name: Sarah Prest
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Prest
Gender: Female
Where born: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Tyldesley With Shakerley
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Tyldesley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 110 Sale Lane

Occupation: (of Richard) Coal Miner

<<<< Registration district: Leigh
Sub-registration district: Atherton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3092
Folio: 68
Page Number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Prest 30 born: Tyldesley, Lancashire,
Sarah Prest 29
<<<< James Prest 11
William Prest 8
Thomas Prest 6
Joseph Prest 0

Hello Maureen & Catherine
Many thanks for this - I am afraid I do not know Richards details other than the marriage I found on the Lancashire Free BMD search.

TYldesley & Leigh are all pretty much the same, and these records do look quite possible don't you think?

So is it saying Richard & Sarah died in the same qtr in 1895 just a month or so after the birth of there child Sarah in qtr 1 in 1895? :-(

I could do with finsing the death certs to see if I can find an address or maybe the informant in case it was James who was aged 1 in 1881?

THis is getting closer I think : )

Cheers
Lorraine

1911

GUEST, Richard Head Widower M 50 1861 Collier Hewer Tyldesley Lanc VIEW
GUEST, Alice Daughter Single F 16 1895 Cotton Mill Frame Tenter Tyldesley Lanc VIEW
GUEST, Joseph Son Married M 20 1891 Colliers Drawer Tyldesley Lanc VIEW
GUEST, Eveline Daughter In Law Married
1 years F 22 1889 House Keeping Salford Maith Lanc VIEW
GUEST, Frank M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 VIEW
GUEST, Gladys F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23247 Reference:
RG14PN23247 RG78PN1358 RD460 SD4 ED17 SN263

Registration District:
Leigh Sub District:
Atherton Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
Tyldesley with Shakerley

Address:
129 Sale Lane Tyldesley County:
Lancashire

Sorry, I have seen your further answers after my last reply.

YES! I would say the PREST details are spot on : )

And maybe Sarah did die between 1891 + 1901 and Richard remarried MArtha?

This is great
thanks

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1898
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

GUEST Richard BRAY Martha Leigh Register Office or Registrar Attended Wigan & Leigh


So Richard could have remarried after Sarah died in 1895?

Oh well done Catherine, on your 1891 find!! Here it is on fmp.

PREST, Richard Head Married M 30 1861 Coal Miner
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
PREST, Sarah Wife Married F 29 1862
Sedgley
Staffordshire VIEW
PREST, James Oakley Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
PREST, William Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
PREST, Thomas Son M 6 1885 Scholar
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
PREST, Joseph Son M 0 (7M) 1891
Tyldesley
Lancashire VIEW
RG number:
RG12 Piece:
3092 Folio:
68 Page:
45

Registration District:
Leigh Sub District:
Atherton Enumeration District:
17 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Georges

Civil Parish:
Tyldesley with Shakerley Municipal Borough:
Address:
110, Sale Lane, Tyldesley With Shakerley County:
Lancashire

In my opinion, the death for Sara is correct but Richard looks to have gone on to marry Martha Bray.
1901 census fits perfectly with my 1891 census:-
children in 1891:-

James Prest 11
William Prest 8
Thomas Prest 6
Joseph Prest 0

children in 1901:-
GUEST, James Son Single M 21 1880 Coal Miner "hewer"
Tyldesley Lancashire
GUEST, William Son Single M 18 1883 Coal Miner "hewer"
Tyldesley Lancashire
GUEST, Thomas Son Single M 16 1885 Drawer Underground
Tyldesley Lancashire
GUEST, Joseph Son Single M 11 1890
Tyldesley
Lancashire

Looks good to me! Well done!!

Maureen

I am thrilled with all of this...excellent. THANK YOU ALL.....
And thanks Choccy for the 1911 find.

I am using FMP but did not find it (NOVICE haha)

I am now going to share this with a cousin in Australia.

Once again, I am made up and thank you

Lorraine
:-D

Just to finish off:-

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1908 ??
GUEST Martha 47 Leigh Wigan & Leigh L/14/57

and Martha Guest the 2nd Wife died in 1908 it seems

GUEST Martha 47 Leigh Wigan & Leigh

and Martha Guest the 2nd Wife died in 1908 it seems

GUEST Martha 47 Leigh Wigan & Leigh