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James Hobday

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Steven

Steven Report 24 Sep 2011 01:33

I am seeking assistance finding a James Hobday.

My great great grandfather was James Hobday I believed he was born around 1816 however I now have info that it may have been 1822 in Cheriton Kent and died in NZ in 1892.

He married Margaret Foliie (Foley) (born Ireland 1828) near Dover in 1846. He is listed in the death notice as a Crimean war veteran. He came to NZ about 1874, sponsored by the Kent Agricultural Workers Union.
His parents are given as Edward Hobday and Rebecca Carvel (Carval) on his death certificate. He had three daughters and one son who never married as far as I know. He worked as a farm laboror.
There was another larger Hobday family who had a business and where in the military in Christchurch NZ and there are still Hobdays there but if they are related to mine it must be very distantly, they are more likely to be more middle class than laborors.

jax

jax Report 24 Sep 2011 02:05

Not seeing a marriage...where did you get that from?

jax

jax

jax Report 24 Sep 2011 02:07

????

Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%)
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Fuller Margaret Ann Dover 2a 1161
Hobday James ?ovey 2a 1161

jax

jax Report 24 Sep 2011 02:14

1871

Name: James Hobday
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Hobday
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheriton, Kent, England
Civil parish: Buckland
Town: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: Hougham
James Hobday 49 >>>Labourer
Margaret Hobday 47
Ann Hobday 11
Mary Hobday 9
William Hobday 4


1861

Name: James Hobday
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Hobday
Gender: Male
Where born: Christon, Kent, England

Civil parish: Dover St James The Apostle
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury St James the Apostle
Town: Dover
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St James
James Hobday 40 >>>>Labourer
Margaret Hobday 37
Ellen M Hobday 5
Margaret A Hobday 2
Henry Ovenden 40
William Cheeseman 42


Lynski

Lynski Report 24 Sep 2011 02:16

name: James Hobday
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 08 Jul 1821
baptism/christening place: Cheriton, Kent, England
father's name: Edward Hobday
mother's name: Rebeckah
indexing project (batch) number: I00358-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1866543

Lynski

Lynski Report 24 Sep 2011 02:22

name: Ellen Maria Hobday
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 20 Jan 1856
baptism/christening place: Capel-le-Ferne, Kent, England
father's name: James Hobday
mother's name: Margaret Hobday
indexing project (batch) number: I00752-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1786210

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Lynski

Lynski Report 24 Sep 2011 03:05

Births Mar 1856 (>99%)
HOBDAY Ellen Maria Dover 2a 691

Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
HOBDAY Margaret Ann Dover 2a 645

(On FMP 1861 census Margaret Ann is shown as 1 month old)

Do you have any birth certificates for children to find out their mother's maiden name?

Steven

Steven Report 3 Oct 2011 05:09

Thanks everyone for your replies, sorry for the delay answering have been on holiday.

Jax, The marriage info came from the NZ death certificates of both James and Margaret, just given as Married near Dover 1846.

Lynski, Margaret's death certificate gives her maiden name as Foley, born Cork Ireland.

There is a third daughter Ellen Maria Hobday born 1855, she did not emigrate to NZ with the rest of the family, I suspect she was either married or deceased in 1874.. Took a while to find her , both parents death notices in NZ news papers refer to three daughters and one son.

jax

jax Report 3 Oct 2011 12:36

It looks like her maiden name was Fuller as per the marriage I gave you in 1854

Whatever is on a death cert is only as good as what the informant knows

As Lynski has said you will need to purchase a birth cert to confirm her maiden name

jax

Steven

Steven Report 14 Oct 2011 23:18

Thanks jax don't think I doubt what your saying as I obviously have some info wrong. There were two things led me to believe that James wife was a Foley. Firstly the death cert gave her fathers name as John Foley and her place of birth as County Cork Ireland. Prior to joining Genes I found on Family Search web site an accurate record of James death in NZ in 1892, I know Family search is often wrong because it has him incorrectly born in 13 Jan 1819 Hyde Park London. But it seemed an interesting coincidence. The Family search link on this is to his wife as Margaret Follie born 21 June 1828 in Ireland. Father John, mother Ellen Moore Chard. Will go to local centre and request Source info. any help apprecd

Steven

Steven Report 14 Oct 2011 23:23

Hi Lynski will order a birth cert for one of the children to try and confirm mothers maiden name. Can anyone confirm that the maiden name is usually on the cert. Some of the earlier NZ certificates lack detail.

Steven

jax

jax Report 14 Oct 2011 23:29

Yes it should be on there

Also the marriage could be mistranscribed? difficult to tell without seeing it

jax

Steven

Steven Report 11 Nov 2011 22:16

Hi All
I have the marriage certificate for James (father Edward) and Margaret Anne it gives her maiden name as Fuller and her father John. I also have the birth certificate for Ellen Maria Hobday my great grand mothers sister which also gives her mothers maiden name as Fuller, Can anyone assist with finding the birth of Mary Anne (Poly) Hobday my g grandmother.
I would have prefered her birth cert but couldn't find her.

Also any info on Edward pretty he married Rebecca Carvel (spelling).

Thanks for the help. Steven

Lynski

Lynski Report 12 Nov 2011 00:52

groom's name: Edward Hobday
bride's name: Rebecca Carvel
marriage date: 13 Aug 1816
marriage place: Chilham, Kent, England
indexing project (batch) number: I00784-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1786276

Lynski

Lynski Report 12 Nov 2011 00:56

name: Ann Hobday
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 19 Apr 1818
baptism/christening place: Newington-next-Hythe, Kent, England
father's name: Edward Hobday
mother's name: Rebecca Hobday
indexing project (batch) number: I00658-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835506

name: Rebecca Hobday
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 11 Apr 1824
baptism/christening place: Newington-next-Hythe, Kent, England
father's name: Edward Hobday
mother's name: Rebecca Hobday
indexing project (batch) number: I00658-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835506

name: Emily Hobday
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 20 Apr 1828
baptism/christening place: Newington-next-Hythe, Kent, England
father's name: Edward Hobday
mother's name: Rebecca Hobday
indexing project (batch) number: I00658-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1835506


????????????
name: Hannah Hobday
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 30 May 1830
baptism/christening place: Cheriton, Kent, England
father's name: Edward Hobday
mother's name: Rebecca
indexing project (batch) number: I00358-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1866543

name: George Hobday
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Nov 1822
baptism/christening place: Cheriton, Kent, England
father's name: Edward Hobday
mother's name: Rebecca
indexing project (batch) number: I00358-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1866543

Lynski

Lynski Report 12 Nov 2011 00:58

name: Charles Hobday
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 25 Dec 1825
baptism/christening place: Cheriton, Kent, England
father's name: Edward Hobday
mother's name: Rebekah
indexing project (batch) number: I00358-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1866543

name: Edward Hobday
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 30 Apr 1820
baptism/christening place: Cheriton, Kent, England
father's name: Edward Hobday
mother's name: Rebeckah
indexing project (batch) number: I00358-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1866543

Steven

Steven Report 13 Nov 2011 06:21

Thanks a lot Lynski

Steven