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Father for Joseph Bateson please?

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Frances

Frances Report 22 Sep 2011 14:46

I know I could have titled this 1861/1871 census for Leeds but just for a change.......
I have come unstuck again because the 1881 census has no father present

1881 Census
Sarah BATESON
Head M Female 43 Leeds, York, England
John BATESON
Son U Male 23 Leeds, York, England Striker Out Leather
Thomas BATESON
Son U Male 20 Leeds, York, England Skin Finisher Leather
Jane BATESON
Daur Female 16 Leeds, York, England Servant (Dom)
Joseph BATESON
Son Male 13 Leeds, York, England School Boy
Mary L. BATESON
Daur Female 11 Leeds, York, England School Girl
Dwelling: 7 Chancellor Place, Leeds, Yorkshire

I am informed that his name should be Joseph but quizzing the G.R. sngle line 1871 gives two for the family I have found so far

Bateson Sarah 1836 Yorkshire Leeds, Leeds, West

Bateson John 1858 Yorkshire Leeds, Leeds, West

Bateson Thomas 1860 Yorkshire Leeds, Leeds, West

Can anyone tell me the correct father please?

Many thanks,
Frances

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Sep 2011 14:54

here they are on the 1871
Name: Joseph Bateson
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Bateson
Gender: Male
Where born: Wortley, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: St Michael
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household schedule number: 102
Piece: 4561
Folio: 143
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Bateson 37 occ Drummer 4th West YorkMiltary
Sarah Bateson 35
John D Bateson 13 shop boy
Thomas Bateson 9
Jane Bateson 6
Joseph Bateson 3
Mary L Bateson 1


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4561; Folio: 143; Page: 19; GSU roll: 847140.

address 24 Sackville Terrace

Abby

Abby Report 22 Sep 2011 14:59

????

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BATESON Joseph DARNLEY Sarah St Philip, Wellington Street Leeds CE76/159

Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years: 1857
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
BATESON John Darnley Hunslet Leeds HUNS/31/433

Frances

Frances Report 22 Sep 2011 15:02

Thank you Shirley and safc, presumably father Joseph was away being a soldier in 1881

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Sep 2011 15:03

maybe
Name: Joseph Bateson
Birth Year: abt 1834
Age: 22
Marriage or Bann Date: 6 Jul 1856
Parish: Leeds, St Philip
Father's Name: Thomas Bateson
Spouse's Name: Sarah Darnley
Spouse's Father's Name: John Darnley

Barry

Barry Report 22 Sep 2011 15:06

There is a tree on Ancestry which gives Joseph's father also Joseph b 1834 Wortley Yorks
The marriage that SAFC has posted appears to be the correct one because the firstborn John his middle name is DARNLEY
Sarah was b 1838 Leeds

Frances

Frances Report 22 Sep 2011 15:27

Thank you Shirley and Barry, I have found, in IGI,

SARAH DARNLEY
Christening: 26 FEB 1837 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire
Father: JOHN DARNLEY
Mother: JANE
JOSEPH & JAMES 03 NOV 1833, THOMAS 12 JUL 1835

and

JOSEPH BATESON
Christening: 16 FEB 1834 Wortley By Leeds, Yorkshire
Father: THOMAS BATESON
Mother: HANNAH
THOMAS RICHARD 06 SEP 1824, MARY ISABELLA 02 JUL 1826, FRANCES AMELIA 20 OCT 1828, ELLEN 19 JUL 1829,
GRACE 17 APR 1831, MARIA 19 JUN 1831, MATTHEW 27 NOV 1836, WALTER 15 SEP 1838, JAMES 23 APR 1839

which match the fathers' names at the marriage. I am not sure about all Josephs potential siblings and I expect the 1841 census will be too late to pick them all up together - lol

Frances

Frances Report 22 Sep 2011 15:58

Quizzing the G.R. 1851 census I can see that quite a few of the family could be together in Wortley or am I just being too ambitious?


1851 Census
Bateson Thomas 1797 Farnley Hunslet, Wortley

Bateson Hannah 1788 Wortley Hunslet, Wortley

Bateson Joseph 1834 Wortley Hunslet, Wortley

Bateson Walter 1839 Wortley Hunslet, Wortley

Bateson James 1840 Wortley Hunslet, Wortley


Bateson Ellen 1830 Wortley Hunslet, Wortley

Bateson Mary 1827 Wortley Hunslet, Wortley

Kim

Kim Report 22 Sep 2011 16:51

Looks like them, Frances. Do you have them in 1841 or would you like us to look?

Kim

Kim Report 22 Sep 2011 16:57

Frances Emily Bateson buried Wortley 18 Oct 1840 aged 12

Probably Frances Amelia

Kim

Kim Report 22 Sep 2011 17:00

Thomas Bateson aged 78 buried Wortley 12 Jan 1875

Kim

Kim Report 22 Sep 2011 17:05

There's a baptism for Thomas Bateson, son of Thomas in Farnley on 21 Aug 1796 (born on 24 Jul)
Source for all these is A****try, by the way

Kim

Kim Report 22 Sep 2011 17:09

Potential marriage in St Peter's, Leeds on 20 Sep 1820:

Thomas Bateson, bachelor, clothier & Hannah Bateson, spinster. Both of this parish. Both signed the register. Witnesses: Ann Lupton, Charlesworth Thornton & Thomas Wainwright.

Bws

Kim in Hull

Frances

Frances Report 22 Sep 2011 17:24

Thank you Kim. Your info matches most of what I have been away looking for!

Yes, I would very much like to have the 1841 census. It just might have some of the earlier children still at home.

Frances

Frances Report 23 Sep 2011 17:40

ndg

Barry

Barry Report 23 Sep 2011 23:25

There are several Bateson trees on Ancestry which needs a subscription to view but a free alternative site is the following. One only needs to register

http://www.mundia.com/gb
Search for Joseph b1834 Wortley and click onto the tree with 11802 names
which has BATESONs going back to Edward Bateson b 1570 Guiseley Yorks

Kim

Kim Report 24 Sep 2011 08:21

This looks like them in 1841. Both Thomases are woollen weavers. Don't know where Hannah is....

Thomas Batison
[Thomas Bateson]
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Tankersley
Hundred: Staincross
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: Wortley
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1350
Book: 1
Folio: 20
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Batison 40
Thos Batison 15
Mary Batison 14
Grace Batison 10
Joseph Batison 7
James Batison 2



Frances

Frances Report 24 Sep 2011 10:15

Thank you Kim. The 1841 seems to be have the same names and dates in Wortley except that they started life in the Wortley next to Leeds but have now moved to the Wortley next to Sheffield!
I am trying out the Mundia site but they want my Ancestry log in details which I will need to look up somewhere....

Frances

Kim

Kim Report 24 Sep 2011 11:37

Maybe not the same ones, then...will have a look on FMP later