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rootsgatherer! your brilliant! thanks again very much!

Joy i have had a quick look at that thread. Many sites for me to have a look through. Thank you very much for the information

:-)

I hope that http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/951721 was helpful for you, too.

Pleasure to help Marc - I know from personal experience how elusive these Irish ancestors can be!

I do think that Benjamin was probably the only child born in Ireland but I am not seeing a birth for him either as Divine, Duffin or Duffy!

Daughter Anne's birth may be a little easier knowing that she was 9 months old when the census was taken on 2/3 April 1871.

Here it is - yet another spelling variation!

1870 DUFFIE ANN F BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0114

Forgot!!

In 1874 when John was born they were staying at 46 Furnace Row so that ties the census in even more!

Thanks again.

rootgatherer both pieces of information could well be my family!

The marriage record is a definite possibilty as you said could have been down to the Irish accent.

I have found more different dates for the marriage now though......
March 1865(son John birth record)
23 Aug 1856(dau Rosina birth record)
5 Aug 1865(son Daniel birth record)
So i think they didnt know themselves when they were married!
John could write as his signature is on birth records but could still be the irish accent that made it be written incorrectly.

The census record looks like a definite as well. All the names and dates seem to tie in with what i have.

Thank you for taking the time to research for me and replying to my post.
:-)

Could this be your family in 1871 please?

Name: Benjamin Duffy
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John Duffy
Mother's Name: Ann Duffy
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 663
Registration district: Bonness
Civil parish: Bonness
County: West Lothian
Address: 60 Furnace Row Kinneil Village
ED: 6
Household schedule number: 74
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1871_152
Household Members: Name Age
John Duffy 26 Labourer at Iron Works, b. Ireland
Ann Duffy 27 b. Ireland
Benjamin Duffy 5
James Duffy 2
Anne Duffy 9mo


Source Citation: Parish: Bonness; ED: 6; Page: 14; Line: 10; Roll: CSSCT1871_152; Year: 1871

This looks like the marriage as the names of the bride and groom's fathers match what you have. The surname difference for John Duffin could just be down to the Irish accent if he was unable to read and write?

Groom's Name: John Divine
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Anne Pollock
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 21 Aug 1865
Marriage Place: Rashakin, Antrim, Ireland
Groom's Father's Name: Danl. Divine
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: John Pollock
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70234-1
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 101479
Reference Number: p216 cn92

Groom's Name: John Divine
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Anne Pollock
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 21 Aug 1865
Marriage Place: Rashakin, Antrim, Ireland
Groom's Father's Name: Danl. Divine
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: John Pollock
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70234-1
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
Source Film Number: 101479
Reference Number: p216 cn92

This is very useful to read:

Genealogy Chat : INFORMATION ONLY for those Searching for IRISH Gen

mgnv - yes info came from young John's birth record and no i havent found a 1871 census record for them, which makes me think they were still in Ireland then. Which again doesn't help make sense of the other census info.
I have looked again at his and other sibling records and some have marriage in march 1865 and others have august 1865.

Glunterpake - thanks i will have a look at those sites.

Thanks for responding to my post. :)

Marc

I presume the marr info came from young John's b.rego.

Is there an 1871 Scottish census for them?


The GRO(I) index thru 1958 (excl N. Ireland post-partition) is available at:
https://www.familysearch.org/s/collection/list#page=1®ion=EUROPE

One can purchase certs (or cheaper still, the uncertified images of the rego) via:
http://www.groireland.ie/

The Irish 1901/1911 censuses are free at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
[Not heard of any release dates for next census (=1926 in both Irelands)]

Most City of Dublin parish registers are free online at:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/
[There are also Carlow, Cork & Kerry OPRs there too]