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Nala
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16 Sep 2011 14:57 |
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Can anyone help me find out a little more information on this distant realative. He was born late 1908 in Kidderminster, Worcs.?
I know his father was Bertram Cope. That is about my knowledge of him before he married in 1931.
Thanks to anyone from Alan S. :-)
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16 Sep 2011 15:00 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: COPE, Frederick Bertram Address: 27 Hoo Road Kidderminster
COPE, Bertie Head Married M 27 1884 Dyehouse Labourer Kidderminster Worcestershire VIEW COPE, Maggie Eva Wife Married 3 years F 25 1886 Carpet Weaver Kidderminster Worcestershire VIEW COPE, Frederick Bertram Son M 2 1909 Kidderminster Worcestershire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 17555 Reference: RG14PN17555 RG78PN1073 RD374 SD3 ED12 SN105 Registration District: Kidderminster Sub District: Kidderminster Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Kidderminster Borough Address: 27 Hoo Road Kidderminster County: Worcestershire
(2 children born and living..........so there must be another child somewhere!)
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16 Sep 2011 15:09 |
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Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%) BENTLEY George Henry Kidderminster 6c 350 CHANCE Emmie Kidderminster 6c 350 >>>MILLS Maggie Eva M Kidderminster 6c 350 (I looked at the image and it's 6c 359)
Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%) Bell Ethel Kidderminster 6c 359 >>>COPE Bertie Kidderminster 6c 359 STANFORD John Kidderminster 6c 359
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16 Sep 2011 15:12 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Maggie Eva M Mills Name: Maggie Eva M Mills Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1886 Registration district: Kidderminster Inferred County: Hereford and Worcester, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 257
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16 Sep 2011 15:13 |
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I wonder if his father died in the war?
Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%) Cope Maggie E M Whitehouse Kidderminster 6c 193 Whitehouse Joseph Cope Kidderminster 6c 193
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PricklyHolly
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16 Sep 2011 15:17 |
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1901 England Census about Maggie E M Mills Name: Maggie E M Mills Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Sarah A Mills Gender: Female Where born: Kidderminster Civil parish: Kidderminster Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Kidderminster County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 66 Piece: 2767 Folio: 63 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Sarah A Mills 35 (Widow) Rug Weaver...Born Lye Stourbridge Maggie E M Mills 15 (Daughter) James Bond 24 (Boarder)
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16 Sep 2011 15:18 |
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UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Bertie Cope Name: Bertie Cope Birth Place: Kidderminster, Worcs Death Date: 25 Aug 1918 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Kidderminster, Worcs Rank: Sergeant Regiment: Prince Albert's (Somerset Light Infantry) Battalion: 8th Battalion Number: 204828 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Comments: Formerly 2635, Worcestershire Regiment, M.M
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Nala
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16 Sep 2011 15:31 |
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Hello and thanks to Prickly Holly And Maureen in N.Y.
Some great info here and thanks. So the father won the Military Medal. Well done to him.
Just thought i would say that Frederick Bertram lost one arm in an accident and believe it or not he became a local hero as a professional goal keeper for Kidderminster Harriers !!!! What a family......
Thanks from Alan. :-)
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PricklyHolly
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16 Sep 2011 15:45 |
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I wondered about this 1901 census for Bertie........
1901 England Census about Bertie Cope Name: Bertie Cope Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel H Cope Mother's Name: Mary A Cope Gender: Male Where born: Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Kidderminster Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Kidderminster County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 120 Piece: 2766 Folio: 141 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Samuel H Cope 38 Mary A Cope 36 Bertie Cope 17 Edith M Cope 15 Samuel H Cope 11
And Bingo!! I have found the missing child with them in 1911....
1911 census - household transcription Person: COPE, Edna May Address: 47 Hoo Road Kidderminster COPE, Samuel H Head Married M 48 1863 Tapestry Carpet Weaver Kidderminster Worcestershire VIEW COPE, Mary Ann Wife Married 27 years F 46 1865 Kidderminster Worcestershire VIEW COPE, Samuel H Son Single M 21 1890 Dye House Labourer Kidderminster Worcestershire VIEW COPE, Edna May Granddaughter F 3 1908 Kidderminster Worcestershire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 17555 Reference: RG14PN17555 RG78PN1073 RD374 SD3 ED12 SN129 Registration District: Kidderminster Sub District: Kidderminster Enumeration District: 12 Parish: Kidderminster Borough Address: 47 Hoo Road Kidderminster County: Worcestershire (4 children born, 3 living, 1 had died)
Births Dec 1907 (>99%) COPE Edna May Kidderminster 6c 217
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PricklyHolly
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16 Sep 2011 15:47 |
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1891 England Census about Bertie Cope Name: Bertie Cope Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Hy Cope Mother's Name: Mary Ann Cope Gender: Male Where born: Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Kidderminster Ecclesiastical parish: St George County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2316 Folio: 32 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Hy Cope 28 Mary Ann Cope 26 Bertie Cope 7 Edith May Cope 5 John F Cope 2 Samuel Hy Cope 1
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Nala
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16 Sep 2011 15:49 |
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Just great Prickly! , just great. With your help i can shoe this family off to the family gathering on Sunday.
Thanks from Alan :-) :-) :-)
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PricklyHolly
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16 Sep 2011 16:04 |
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Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%) COPE Edith May Kidderminster 6c 357 PICKERING Josiah Kidderminster 6c 357
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16 Sep 2011 16:04 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: PICKERING, Edith May Address: Wilden Lane PICKERING, Josiah Head Married M 25 1886 Tin Plate Roller Staffs Wolverhampton VIEW PICKERING, Edith May Wife Married 2 years F 25 1886 Worcs Kidderminster VIEW PICKERING, Stanley William Son M 1 1910 Worcs Hartlebury VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 17745 Reference: RG14PN17745 RG78PN1086 RD381 SD1 ED7 SN70 Registration District: Droitwich Sub District: Ombersley Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Hartlebury Address: Wilden Lane County: Worcestershire
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16 Sep 2011 16:08 |
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So John F Cope must be the child that died.....
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about John Frederick Cope Name: John Frederick Cope Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1888 Registration district: Kidderminster Inferred County: Hereford and Worcester, Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 204
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about John Fre__Rick Cope Name: John Fre__Rick Cope Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1892 Age at Death: 4 Registration district: Kidderminster Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 137
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16 Sep 2011 16:20 |
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Samuel Henry Cope Name: Samuel Henry Cope Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1862 Registration district: Kidderminster Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page:
Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability John COPE Head M Male 45 Kidder, Worcester, England Carpet Weaver Mary A. COPE Wife M Female 44 Kidder, Worcester, England Jane COPE Daur U Female 19 Kidder, Worcester, England Rug Weaver Samuel H. COPE Son Male 18 Kidder, Worcester, England Creeler Frederick COPE Son Male 16 Kidder, Worcester, England Creeler Albert COPE Son Male 13 Kidder, Worcester, England Scholar Agnes COPE Daur Female 11 Kidder, Worcester, England Scholar
Source Information: Dwelling 15 Brussel St Census Place Kidderminster Borough, Worcester, England
Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%) COOKSON Mary Ann Kidderminster 6c 310 COPE Samuel Henry Kidderminster 6c 310
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Samuel H Cope Name: Samuel H Cope Birth Date: abt 1862 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1919 Age at Death: 57 Registration district: Kidderminster Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 79
1871 England Census about Samuel H Cope Name: Samuel H Cope Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Cope Mother's Name: Mary A Cope Gender: Male Where born: Kidder, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Kidderminster Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist Town: Kidderminster County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster Household Members: Name Age John Cope 35 Mary A Cope 35 Jane Cope 10 Samuel H Cope 9
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16 Sep 2011 16:30 |
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Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%) Cope John Kidderminster 6c 248 Knott Mary Ann Kidderminster 6c 248
1861 England Census about John Cope Name: John Cope Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: May Anne Cope Gender: Male Where born: Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Kidderminster Ecclesiastical parish: Kidderminster Town: Kidderminster County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 216 Piece: 2077 Folio: 95 Page Number: 38 Household Members: Name Age John Cope 25 May Anne Cope 24
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about John Cope Name: John Cope Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1894 Age at Death: 58 Registration district: Kidderminster Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 99
ngland & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Mary Ann Cope Name: Mary Ann Cope Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1901 Age at Death: 64 Registration district: Kidderminster Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 150
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16 Sep 2011 16:40 |
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1851 England Census about John Cope Name: John Cope Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's Name: Samuel Cope Mother's Name: Rebecca Cope Gender: M (Male) Where born: Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Kidderminster Ecclesiastical parish: Kidderminster Town: Kidderminster County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster ED, institution, or vessel: 1s Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Piece: 2038 Folio: 478 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Cope 48 (Hand Loom Weaver) Born Rocester Staffordshire Rebecca Cope 48 Bon Manchester Lancashire Richard Cope 21<<<< Children all Born Kidderminster Sarah A Cope 19 John Cope 15 Ellen Cope 14 Eliza Cope 12 William H Cope 3
1841 England Census about John Pope Name: John Pope [John Cope] Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Gender: Male Where born: Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Kidderminster Hundred: Kidderminster County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Registration district: Kidderminster Sub-registration district: Kidderminster Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1208 Book: 4 Folio: 12 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Pope 35 Rebekah Pope 35 Richard Pope 11 Sarah Pope 9 John Pope 6 Ellen Pope 4 Eliza Pope 1
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Nala
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16 Sep 2011 17:41 |
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.Prickly Holly and Maureen,.
Just great. I am in the process of typing this all up to make it like some sort of book. You have been so kind to me. Alan.
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PricklyHolly
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17 Sep 2011 00:33 |
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I hope you have a great time at the family gathering on Sunday!! ;-)
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