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AnnCardiff
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17 Sep 2011 11:55 |
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well done Pauline and no need for apologies!!! you'll soon get the hang of things - we all made mistakes when we started out :-) <3
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Pauline
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17 Sep 2011 06:32 |
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SORRY NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO USE THIS SITE I WILL GET BETTER THANKS FOR YOUR HELP I WILL TAKE ALL INFO AND AND HAVE A LOOK SORRY ANN TRIED CLICKING ON ANSWERED BUT WILL DO NOTHING THANKS FOR EVERY ONES INPUT PAULINE,
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AnnCardiff
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16 Sep 2011 22:03 |
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unusual name isnlt it!!! Pauline had better turn up here or I shall go looking for her - be afraid Pauline - be very afraid!!!!! :-D :-D :-D :-D
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Linda
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16 Sep 2011 20:56 |
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ann you do a lot to help people i was just browsing and thought this looks interesting as hare was my maiden name
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AnnCardiff
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16 Sep 2011 16:08 |
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Pauline - reply on here or we'll come knocking on your door!!! :-) :-D
try clicking on the "answered" bit and see if it recrtifies itself
Ann X
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AnnCardiff
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16 Sep 2011 11:22 |
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This interesting Anglo-Gaelic medieval surname, spelt as Hare and Hair, has a number of possible origins. In England the first and most likely origin is from the pre 7th century word "hara" - the hare, and as such it is a nickname for a messenger or fast runner. This is almost certainly the case with the first known recording (see below). Occasionally the name can be topographical or locational, there are several places called Hare. In this case the derivation is from the ancient word "haer", meaning "stony ground", and therefore describing one at such a place. In Scotland and Ireland when the name is not imported from England, it is an anglicized spelling of the surname "O'hir", a nickname meaning the descendant of the fierce one! The very first recording anywhere is 12th Century (see below), whilst an early English example is that of Johannes Hare in the 1379 Poll Tax Rolls for Yorkshire. The surname first appears in Scotland in 1366, William Hare being a burgess of Edinburgh, although in 1430 one Patrick is recorded as Hayre, Hair, and Hare, in the same charter! An interesting namebearer, recorded in the "Dictionary of National Biography", was Sir Nicholas Hare. He was a judge during the reign of King Henry V111, as well as being an M.P. for Lancaster, being knighted in 1537. The first recorded spelling of the family name is believed to be that of Walter le Hare, which was dated 1166, in the Pipe Rolls of the county of Surrey. This was during the reign of King Henry 11, known as "The Builder of Churches", 1154 - 1189. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling
Read more: http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Hair#ixzz1Y6qp1Srh
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Sep 2011 11:15 |
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Kim is right in what she says. Don't forget most people in those years could'nt read or write and they did'nt have birthdays like we do today, but they did have naming patterns.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JOSEPH HARE Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: 29 JUN 1740 Christening: 27 JUL 1740 St Mary, Hitchin, Hertford, England Parents: Father: THOS. HARE Family Mother: ANN
Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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AnnCardiff
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16 Sep 2011 11:11 |
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JOSEPH HARE Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 01 JUL 1753 Henlow, Bedford, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN HARE Family Mother: ELIZABETH
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Kim
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16 Sep 2011 11:09 |
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Pauline, welcome to the boards.
There is a very good website www.pirtonhistory.org.uk, which I assume you have seen. Your Joseph's 1771 marriage to Elizabeth Kingham is on there and the births of his children and information relating to his service in the militia. It does not, however, include any baptism for Joseph or of any siblings.
A further complication is that Pirton is very near the border with Bedfordshire and the surname Hare (and variants) is found there as well. I've checked the freereg site, and the parish register collection on FMP (only marriages and burials are on there). I've also looked on familysearch.org and the only likely Joseph I've found was actually baptised on 27 July 1740 in Hitchin (next to Pirton), son of Thomas and Ann. Given that children were conventionally named after their grandparents and your Joseph named two of his children Thomas and Anne, I think it's POSSIBLE that he is the one - ages did tend to be misrepresented, either intentionally or not. If he is the correct Joseph, some siblings are shown on familysearch.org
So sorry I can't offer anything more positive.
Best wishes Kim in Hull
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Sep 2011 11:09 |
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Elizabeth Pedigree Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 22 DEC 1751 Pirton, Hertford, England Parents: Father: Richard Kingham Family Mother: Ann
Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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AnnCardiff
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16 Sep 2011 11:04 |
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parents:John Hare,? Sarah name: Joseph Hare gender: Male baptism/christening date: 24 Feb 1742 baptism/christening place: LOWER GRAVENHURST,BEDFORD,ENGLAND father's name: John Hare mother's name: Sarah indexing project (batch) number: P00344-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 88005
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16 Sep 2011 11:02 |
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Heretforshire ?????....
JOSEPH HARE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 29 JUN 1740 Christening: 27 JUL 1740 St Mary, Hitchin, Hertford, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: THOS. HARE Mother: ANN
. As you can see, the possibilities are endless. You need to give us some definite facts about this guy.
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AnnCardiff
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16 Sep 2011 11:02 |
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spouse:Elizabeth Kingham groom's name: Joseph Hair bride's name: Elizabeth Kingham marriage date: 1771 marriage place: Pirton, Herts, Eng indexing project (batch) number: M04819-2 system origin: England-VR source film number: 1040655
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Sep 2011 11:00 |
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JOSEPH HARE Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 24 FEB 1742 Lower Gravenhurst, Bedford, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN HARE Family Mother: SARAH
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record.
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Mike *
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16 Sep 2011 10:59 |
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Familysearch has it as 24th and Hertfordshire. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Hair -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: Elizabeth Kingham Marriage: 24 OCT 1771 Pirton, Hertford, England Can I ask,,,, how do you know he was born 1746 ?
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AnnCardiff
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16 Sep 2011 10:55 |
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message from poster
DONT THINK THIS IS HIM AS HE MARRIED ELIZABETH KINGHAM 26 OCT 1771 IN ST MARY THE VIRGIN IN PIRTON BEDFORDSHIRE, THANKS PAULINE HARE
Pauline - you have now marked my posting as "answered" which means no one will now bother to look at this posting!!! can you rectify that and as I said, always reply on here, not by messages :-)
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AnnCardiff
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15 Sep 2011 21:06 |
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Husband Joseph Hare Pedigree Birth: About 1746 Of, Boston, Lincoln, England Christening: Marriage: 13 JAN 1771 Boston, Lincoln, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife Ann Taylor Pedigree Birth: About 1750 Of, Boston, Lincoln, England Christening: Marriage: 13 JAN 1771 Boston, Lincoln, England
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Derek
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15 Sep 2011 20:55 |
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Joseph Hare..baptised 17.11.1745 St. Botolph's Bishopgate london..son of Joseph and Tabitha............or you can have three in lincolnshire and one in Bedford........you see the problem.......as Kim suggests.where would help.
Derek.
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Kim
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15 Sep 2011 20:44 |
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Joseph Hare - where? :-D :-D
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Pauline
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15 Sep 2011 20:41 |
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parents or siblings help come to a halt with this one thanks pauline
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