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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Sep 2011 19:16

Sorry, not finding anything. Have looked at US census for both Barraclough and Edwards and nothing obvious.

If anyone can search and see search results I'm happy to look at transcription.

One thought - what if Ann married in the US and then came back to England. Wouldn't know where to start looking.

This site - http://www.familylink.com - offers a 3 day free trial (one of those where you have to give your card details and then remember to cancel before the three days is up) if you want to try a search on there.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 11 Sep 2011 22:28

that's what I meant :-) I don't have paid access for Ancestry records but I can't see anyone who looks likely ... one problem is that in 1930 it only shows place of birth for head of household ... since the social security number was issued in New Jersey maybe look there too

Beverley

Beverley Report 11 Sep 2011 09:32

Hi chrissiex,
well it is right date of birth,would it be any help if we found her on any of the census records?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 11 Sep 2011 01:15

what do we all think about the possibility of the person whose death record Marie Celeste posted ?

Social Security Death Index about Ann Edwards
Name: Ann Edwards
SSN: 149-28-2454
Last Residence: Pennsylvania
Born: 24 Feb 1884
Died: Jan 1966
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1953-1954)

just as easily a coincidence ...

in 1920 there are 30 people named ann* in Philadelphia county who were born in England in 1884 ... strangely not one of them is plain Ann !

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Sep 2011 21:41

glad I got something right!!!! :-)

Beverley

Beverley Report 10 Sep 2011 20:30

Hi Ann, yes you have the correct Lydia (nee barraclough) I have both Lydia and Harlands death certificates. I know that one of their daughters called Ann married a William Stephenson and they had a daughter called Karen. Ann died in 1972, no idea if they had any more children or what happened to the daughter called Karen.
Another daughter called Elizabeth married a Joe Biscottie in 1952 They had no children and they have both died.
The remaining children Ethel b 1914 in england, Margaret born 1814 England, Amy born 1929,Philadelphia, Joe born 1933,Philadelphia Bill born 1935,Philadelphia I have no idea what happened to them

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Sep 2011 20:13

????

Lydia Slater
United States Census, 1930

birth: 1892 —England
residence: 1930 —Philadelphia (Districts 0751-1000), Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
immigration: 1925
census: 1930 —Philadelphia (Districts 0751-1000), Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
spouse: Harland Slater
children: Annie Slater, Ethel Slater...

record title: United States Census, 1930
name: Lydia Slater
event: Census
event date: 1930
event place: Philadelphia (Districts 0751-1000), Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
gender: Female
age: 38
marital status: Married
race: White
birthplace: England
estimated birth year: 1892
immigration year: 1925
relationship to head of household: Wife
father's birthplace: England
mother's birthplace: England
enumeration district number: 0769
family number: 317
sheet number and letter: 11B
line number: 76
nara publication: T626, roll 2125
digital folder number: 4639462

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Sep 2011 20:07

Social Security Death Index about Ann Edwards
Name: Ann Edwards
SSN: 149-28-2454
Last Residence: Pennsylvania
Born: 24 Feb 1884
Died: Jan 1966
State (Year) SSN issued: New Jersey (1953-1954)



Social Security Death Index
about Ann Evans
Name: Ann Evans
SSN: 020-40-2086
Last Residence: 01923 Danvers, Essex, Massachusetts, United States of America
Born: 24 Feb 1884
Died: Dec 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (1965-1966)


Social Security Death Index
about Ann Magnus
Name: Ann Magnus
SSN: 262-80-4914
Last Residence: 31210 Macon, Bibb, Georgia, United States of America
Born: 24 Feb 1884
Died: Sep 1980
State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (1962)

Beverley

Beverley Report 10 Sep 2011 19:45

Hi Chrissiex and Marie celeste, Have just got online today so will be reading your posts and "digesting them", so much to take in. There was another sister of Ann and Mary Ellens who went to the usa. She was married and called Lydia Slater ( nee Barraclough)Lydia and her husband and children went in 1924.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 10 Sep 2011 18:46

I tried searching the social security death index for Ann born on 24 february 1884 ... there are three

Ann Edwards 1966 no residence showing (once resided New Jersey)
Ann Evans 1976 Massachusetts
Ann Magnus 1980 Georgia


Marie Celeste feel like a little digging ? :-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Sep 2011 17:01

Here's that 1907 passenger record for Ann:


Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
about Ann Barraclough
Name: Ann Barraclough
Arrival Date: 7 Jul 1907
Age: 23 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Irish (must be error, says born Morley)
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Merion
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Mary Barraclough
Last Residence: England
Birthplace: Morley, England
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_58

Gives last residence as Morley. Relative is father John Barraclough of 9 Jackson Lane, Morley, Yorks. She had paid her own passage and had $13.

She was going to visit her sister, Mary Barraclough of 3513 Beaumont Street, Philadelphia, who met her.

Ann was 5'3" had a fresh complexion, dark hair and brown eyes. Her physical and mental health was stated as good and she wasn't crippled or deformed.

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 9 Sep 2011 23:19

there are not very many Hinchcliffes in Pennsylvania today

http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=hinchcliffe&where=pennsylvania

and one of them is named Harry ... I would write letters myself


in the 1910 US census there are a dozen Barracloughs in Philadelphia born in England, is it possible that the sisters went out to family, cousins or the like ?

one in the 1910 census who is easily identifiable in England is this one in 1851

Name: Horatio Barraclough
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Isaac Barraclough
Mother's Name: Sarah Barraclough
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: North Bierley, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: North Bierley

any relation ?


there are only 4 Barracloughs in Philadelphia today, could also be worth a try

http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=&name=barraclough&where=philadelphia+pa

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 9 Sep 2011 23:14

I meant to say Beverly ... I don't know where anyone would find information on marriages but since you have Harry in the censuses and I've given you Harry Hinchcliffe's parents' info I don't think a marriage or birth would provide much more for that one

I have a similar problem to yours with Ann, two sisters of a grandparent who emigrated to the US, I don't know whether they married first or not, their names are not Smith but still too common to be sure, I know what state they lived in around 1930, but I have no idea how to find them

what are you actually looking for, is it descendants ?

have you tried googling for obituaries ?

oh bad luck ... someone with the name Harry Hinchcliffe is heavy into gaming on line or something ...

oh I see you already had the 1880 (and 1920) census and Harry's parents' details so that was not my time well spent

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/PAPHILAD/2006-08/1155021407


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Sep 2011 22:35

not your fault Beverly :-)

seems it's mine!!

Beverley

Beverley Report 9 Sep 2011 22:23

to Ann of Green Gables and Chrissiex, Thank yo both for taking the trouble to help with my search, I seem to have caused you some sort of confusion, SORRY

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 9 Sep 2011 22:08

I have deleted my postings - could I say I had the posting opened while I was searching and did not see the other info

Beverley

Beverley Report 9 Sep 2011 21:46

thanks for all the above info,taking a while for me to digest same, any chance of finding any marriages for any of them?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 9 Sep 2011 21:22

on a free search of the 1900 census this seems to be him ?

Harry Henchliffe
[Harry Hinchliffe]
city, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
dob 1881, parents' names I can't see


edit by process of elimination from the 1880 census his parents in 1900 are Frederick and Sarah ... other children in the 1900 household are James and Bentley


1880 ( free access )

Name: Fredk. Hinchcliffe
Home in 1880: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Sarah Hinchclife
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Machanist
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male

Name: Sarah Hinchclife
Home in 1880: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Fredk. Hinchcliffe
Father's birthplace: Ireland
Mother's birthplace: Ireland
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Keeps House
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female

Fredk. Hinchcliffe 45
Sarah Hinchclife 30
James Hinchclife 7
Bertha Hinchclife 1
Annie Montgomery 16


I don't see him in 1910 ... the one in Wisconsin is not him, he is also in the 1920 census ...

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 9 Sep 2011 21:14


this looks like Ann going to the US ( I do not have access to details, the record could show where she was going )

BARRACLOUGH Ann 1884 F 1907 Liverpool USA Philadelphia

I don't see a record that is clearly identifiable as Mary Ellen


Beverley have you looked in the 1900 US census for Harry?

possibly he would be in the 1880 if ages were rounded ... no 1890 census available unfortunately

Beverley

Beverley Report 9 Sep 2011 20:57

This is the correct family. How do I find out who Harrys parents were and when he married Mary Ellen?