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Clements Family

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EllenS

EllenS Report 6 Sep 2011 13:38

Hello, I would be very grateful if anyone could help me find the family of Martha Clements born around 1885 from the West Ham area. Martha married Joseph Starbuck in 1905 in West Ham. I have researched the Clements side but am unsure if I have it all correct. Any help would be very much appreciated
(on the original post i had martha being born in 1865 i had to change date of birth to 1885 sorry)

Ellen

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Sep 2011 13:48

For Ref..........

1911 census - household transcription
Person: STARBUCK, Martha
Address: 39 Parker Street Silvertown E

STARBUCK, Joseph Alexander Head Married M 27 1884 Ships Donkeyman Canning Town Essex VIEW
STARBUCK, Martha Wife Married
6 years F 26 1885 Plaistow Essex VIEW
STARBUCK, Joseph Henry Son M 5 1906 Silvertown Essex VIEW
STARBUCK, William Son M 2 1909 Silvertown Essex VIEW
STARBUCK, Alexander Frederick Son M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Silvertown Esex VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9472 Reference:
RG14PN9472 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED2 SN69

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Canning Town Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
West Ham

Address:
39 Parker Street Silvertown E County:
Essex

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Sep 2011 13:51

1901 England Census
about Martha Clements
Name: Martha Clements
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Harry Clements
Mother's Name: Sarah Clements
Gender: Female
Where born: Plaistow, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Canning Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Piece: 1578
Folio: 55
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Clements 40
Sarah Clements 40
Jane Clements 21
Mable Clements 18
Martha Clements 16
David Clements 14
Harry Clements 12
Charley Clements 10
Alice Clements 8

Andrew

Andrew Report 6 Sep 2011 13:51

This from 1891, but you really need a copy of her marriage cert to confirm fathers name/occuaption

1891 England Census
about Martha Clemens Name: Martha Clemens
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Harry Clemens
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Clemens
Gender: Female
Where born: Plaistow, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1328
Folio: 130
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Clemens 30
Sarah Ann Clemens 30
Jane Clemens 12
Phoebe Clemens 8
Martha Clemens 6
David Clemens 4
Harry Clemens 2



Andy

EllenS

EllenS Report 6 Sep 2011 13:51

Hi PricklyHolly, yes that is Martha and Joseph.
Would you be able to find out who Martha's parents etc were please

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Sep 2011 13:52

Do you have the marriage certificate which should give her father's name:-

Name: STARBUCK, Joseph Alexander
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 296

On the same page is Martha Clements.

Kath. x

EllenS

EllenS Report 6 Sep 2011 13:54

Thank you Andy

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Sep 2011 13:55

This looks like Martha in the 1901 census with her parents (the marriage certificate will confirm whether this is the right parents or not):-

CLEMENTS, Harry Head Married M 40 1861 Dock Foreman
Romford
Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Sarah Wife Married F 40 1861
Plaistow
Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Jane Daughter Single F 21 1880 Factory Hand Rubber Works
Plaistow
Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Mable Daughter Single F 18 1883 Factory Hand Jam
Plaistow
Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Martha Daughter Single F 16 1885 Factory Hand Rubber Works
Plaistow
Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, David Son Single M 14 1887 Factory Hand Rubber Works
Silvertown
Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Harry Son M 12 1889
Plaistow
Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Charley Son M 10 1891
Plaistow
Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Alice Daughter F 8 1893
Plaistow
Essex

Address:
33, Constance Street, West Ham

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1578 Folio:
55 Page:
5

Kath. x

EllenS

EllenS Report 6 Sep 2011 13:57

Hi Kath, no I haven't got a marriage cert for Martha and Joseph. Maybe I could get one just to make sure on Martha's father

Thank you

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Sep 2011 13:58

1911 census - household transcription
Person: CLEMENTS, Sarah
Address: 54 Albert Road Silvertown E

CLEMENTS, Sarah Head Widow F 49 1862 Plaistow Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, David Son Single M 24 1887 Carman Jam Factory Silvertown Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Henry Boarder Single M 22 1889 General Labourer Plaistow Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Charles Son Single M 19 1892 General Labourer Plaistow Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Phoebe Daughter Single F 28 1883 Wire Worker Plaistow Essex VIEW
CLEMENTS, Alice Daughter Single F 17 1894 Lacquirist Plaistow Essex VIEW
FELTON, Liza Servant Single F 42 1869 Domestic Servant Plaistow Essex VIEW
HORNSEY, Mary Boarder Widow F 62 1849 Cloth Examiner Plumstead Kent VIEW
JENNINGS, George Boarder Married M 49 1862 Shoeing Smith Marlbrough Wiltshire VIEW
HOWE, Arthur Boarder Married M 38 1873 General Labourer Soham Cambridgeshire VIEW
HOWE, Ernie Boarder Single M 18 1893 General Labourer Soham Cambridgeshire VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9472 Reference:
RG14PN9472 RG78PN508 RD188 SD4 ED2 SN39

Registration District:
West Ham Sub District:
Canning Town Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
West Ham

Address:
54 Albert Road Silvertown E County:
Essex
(11 Children born, 7 living, 4 had died)

EllenS

EllenS Report 6 Sep 2011 13:59

It could well be the correct family as the Clements and the Stabucks did work on the Docks in London

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Sep 2011 14:02

Deaths Sep 1903 (>99%)
Clements Harry 43 W. Ham 4a 78

EllenS

EllenS Report 6 Sep 2011 14:07

Thank you all for your help. Only one more thing can anyone find
Harry' Clements (born 1861) parents.
All the help is very much appreciated

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Sep 2011 14:16

??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Harry Clements
Name: Harry Clements
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1861
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 20


1881 England Census
about Henry Clements
Name: Henry Clements
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A. Clements
Gender: Male
Where born: Romford, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address: 16 Beaumont Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Dock Lab

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1711
Folio: 30
Page Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Clements 23
Sarah A. Clements 21
Jane S. Clements 1


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Sep 2011 14:20

Possibly....??

1861 England Census
about Harry Clemments
Name: Harry Clemments
Age: 6 Weeks
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Clemments
Mother's Name: Elizabeth S Clemments
Gender: Male
Where born: West Ham, Essex, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 1057
Folio: 102
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clemments 36 (Dock Labourer)
Elizabeth S Clemments 34
Jessie Clemments 7
William Clemments 5
Harry Clemments 6 Weeks

EllenS

EllenS Report 6 Sep 2011 14:45

In the notes I have just found I had Harry's parents as Thomas Clements b.1833 Halestead Essex and Susannah (Sarah Ann) b.1823 Barking Essex???? Not too sure now considering Harry may have been born in 1858 or 1861 West Ham or Romford?? And Romford was just down the road from West Ham back in those days?? All very confusing??

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 Sep 2011 14:59

??

1871 England Census
about Harry Clements
Name: Harry Clements
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Clements
Mother's Name: Susannah Clements
Gender: Male
Where born: Flaiston, Essex, England
Civil parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bow
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Clements 38
Susannah Clements 38
Fanny Clements 18
Lizzie Clements 16
John Clements 14
Harry Clements 11


I think you will have to purchase Harry's marriage cert to confirm who his father was.

EllenS

EllenS Report 6 Sep 2011 15:06

Yes I think I will need to get a marriage cert, but it does look like Harry's parents were William and Elizabeth and William worked on the Docks as did Harry.
Thank you ever so much for all your help x