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From the 1911 census I have the 1901 family as George Herbert Harris 1866
Elizabeth 1893
Frederick William 1897
James 1899

but no mother.
George Herbert's marriage seems to be

Marriages Mar 1892
HARRIS George Herbert Swansea
11a 997

EVANS Elizabeth Swansea
11a 997

Spiller Charlotte Swansea
11a 997

Does the 1901 census determine whether he married Elizabeth or Charlotte please?

Many thanks,
Frances

1901 ??
Name: George H Harris
Age in 1901: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rebecca Harris
Gender: Male
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Swansea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Swansea
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Swansea
Sub-registration district: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 241
Piece: 5077
Folio: 51
Page Number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
George H Harris 35
Rebecca Harris 37
James G Harris 7
Hellenor M Harris 6
John Beynon 69



NO this is George Henry Harris


Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)
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Beynon Rebecca Swansea 11a 1433
Bowen Margaret Swansea 11a 1433
Evans David Swansea 11a 1433
Harris George Henry Swansea 11a 1433

1911 for info

Address: 29 Tyson Street Bradford Yorkshire
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HARRIS, George Herbert Widower Widower M 45 1866 Tailor Maker Cheltenham Gloucestershire
HARRIS, Elizabeth Single F 18 1893 My House Keeper Swansea Glamorganshire
HARRIS, Frederick William M 14 1897 Bobbin Ligging Liverpool Lancashire
HARRIS, James Son M 12 1899 School Liverpool
HARRIS, Hannah Jane F 10 1901 School Liverpool
HARRIS, George Alexander M 4 1907 Bradford Yorkshire
HARRIS, David Walter M 1 1910 Bradford Yorkshire
WILLIAMS, Lodger John Lodger Widower M 55 1856 Tailor Maker Liverpool
HOMES, Walter Lodger Single M 56 1855 Wool Comber Gomersall
CRAVEN, Fred Lodger Single M 43 1868 Railway Carter

HARRIS, George Herb Head Married M 33 1868 Tailor (Foreman)
Cheltenham Gloucestershire
HARRIS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1867
WhitlandCarmarthenshire
HARRIS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 8 1893 Swansea Glamorganshire
HARRIS, Fredk Willm Son Single M 4 1897 L'pool Lancashire
HARRIS, James Son Single M 2 1899 L'pool Lancashire
HARRIS, Hannah Jane Daughter Single F 0 (3 MOS) 1901 L'pool Lancashire
KILBY, Cornelius Boarder Single M 25 1876 Ireland Co Cork
RG number:RG13 Piece:3419 Folio:144 Page:19     
 
Registration District:Liverpool
Sub District:Mount Pleasant
Enumeration District:29
Ecclesiastical Parish:Liverpool St Luke
 
Civil Parish:Liverpool
Address:2in 2, Court, Fleet Street, Liverpool
County:Lancashire

1901

Name: George Herb Harris
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Harris
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 3419
Folio: 144
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
George Herb Harris 33
Elizabeth Harris 34
Elizabeth Harris 8
Fredk Willm Harris 4
James Harris 2
Hannah Jane Harris 3 Months
Cornelius Kiely 25

Chris

Much easier to find them with that info Jan

Chris

1901 Edit Looks like i was too slow!
Name: Elizabeth Harris
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Herb Harris
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Name: George Herb Harris
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Harris
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Name: Elizabeth Harris
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Herb Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitland, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Household Members:
Name Age
George Herb Harris 33
Elizabeth Harris 34
Elizabeth Harris 8
Fredk Willm Harris 4
James Harris 2
Hannah Jane Harris 3 Months
Cornelius Kiely 25 BOARDER

Thank you all for your finds. I had no idea they were in Liverpool in 1901!
My quest on this family can start in earnest with all the places of birth to check.

With all the help I was given yesterday I have pieced together some info on Elizabeth Harris and I am looking for her in 1881 to discover her family, without success!

From jansmith 1901

Name: Elizabeth Harris
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Herb Harris
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitland, Carmarthenshire, Wales

then
Marriages Mar 1892
HARRIS George Herbert Swansea
11a 997

EVANS Elizabeth Swansea
11a 997

possibly
Births Mar 1867
Evans Elizabeth Carmarthen
11a 681

and EDIT
1871
Evans Elizabeth 1867 Carmarthenshire Carmarthen, St Clear

The marriage I am sure about as her last child is
Births Jun 1909
Harris David Evans Walter Bradford
9b 57

As the G.R. single line 1871 does not give place of birth I am basing I have the correct Elizabeth on St Clear being just down the road from Whitland.

Does the above provide sufficient for some sharp eyed person to find her family please?

Many thanks,
Frances

Ndg. I'm being good and not posting about the same person twice!

Husband
GEORGE HARRIS Pedigree

Birth: 1830 , , Wales
Christening:
Marriage: About 1854 , , Wales

Father: HARRIS Family
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Wife
MRS. ELIZABETH HARRIS Pedigree


Birth: 1830 , , Wales
Christening:
Marriage: About 1854 , , Wales
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Children

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1. MARY HARRIS Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1855 , , Wales
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2. JOHN HARRIS Pedigree
Male

Birth: 1857 , , Wales
Christening:
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3. DAVID HARRIS Pedigree
Male

Birth: 1858 , , Wales
Christening:
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4. CATHERINE HARRIS Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1863 , , Wales
Christening:
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5. ELIZABETH HARRIS Pedigree
Female

Birth: 1865 , , Wales
Christening:

George Herbert Harris
England and Wales Census, 1911

birth: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
residence: 1911 —Bradford, Bradford Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
census: 1911 —Bradford, Bradford Yorkshire, Yorkshire (West Riding), England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1911
name: George Herbert Harris
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 45
birthplace: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
record type: Household
registration district: Bradford
sub-district: Bradford Central
parish: Bradford
county: Yorkshire (West Riding)


George Herb Harris
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1868 —Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Liverpool, Lancashire, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Liverpool, Lancashire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: George Herb Harris
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 33
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
record type: Household
registration district: Liverpool
sub-district: Mount Pleasant
ecclesiastical parish: Liverpool St Luke
civil parish: Liverpool
county:

Thanks Ann but perhaps my post was misleading as I copied one bit of info twice. I intended to add what I think could be Elizabeth Evans in the 1871

Evans Elizabeth 1867 Carmarthenshire Carmarthen, St Clear

but I cannot see her in 1881.

I think you may need to get the marriage cert and hopefully confirm her fathers name

Hi jansmith, I am doing this research for a friend of a friend and understand that we have already used up the current certificate allowance!

Is there any chance that an expanded 1871 census for Elizabeth at St Clear could match her 1901 birth place of Whitland, that you found?

I am not sure which site you found her on in 1871 census but i cannot find one on Ancestry in 1871 at St Clear
edit is this the one you found?
Name: Elizabeth Evans
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Evan Evans
Mother's Name: Sarah Evans
Gender: Female
Where born: Llangunnock, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llangynog
County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Carmarthen
Sub-registration district: St Clears
Household Members:
Name Age
Evan Evans 29
Sarah Evans 27
William Evans 6
Elizabeth Evans 4
Mary Evans 3
John Evans 1
Benjamin Jones 17 servant
Benjamin Evans 13 servant
Martha Hughes 22 servant
Hanah Harries *12 Daughter of Evan and Sarah* i think this might be age 2 on the image

not sure that this will confirm you have the right one?

Thanks for that jansmith and I have to agree with you, with so many llan.... around it is not going to be easy. Why could she just not stick with Whitland, which I was able to find on the map.

Whitland and St Clear are practically next door to each other