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Hi to you all, look I am sorry I haven't got back earlier, but you have given me SO much information, and I didn't have very much to go on - this is a great help to me, I do struggle with the research part I'm afraid, OK with looking for info that is quite straightforward, but I have needed help with this. I want to find any living relatives in Canada of Theresa and William. If I have duplicated my enquiry I am sorry, but there are details here that I haven't noted before and the roots chat I can't recall seeing.

sorry Jackie ... but are you not the person who posted that question at rootschat and engaged in all that discussion and was given all that information ?? or someone with the same name ?!

Hey , I am sorry if I have upset you, I will apologise first and just say I didn't recall the roots information and I am trying to research four blood lines as I never knew any of my grandparents and the information I have is absolutely nil and I have emails coming in all over the place = I am really very grateful to you all....unfortunantely due to illness I have not had much input into my tree for a long time, so it is more or less back to the starting point for me and that starting point is Theresa, because the story is so complex and myself and my cousin in Australia are triying to find any descendents (if she had children with William Le Clair) as it would be comforting to know why she left this country and her children.
My apologies again.

we understand it can be confusing ... suggest you print off both this thread and the one from rootschat and put them somewhere safe now !

Leclair is a very common name in Canada because it is French Canadian ( and Le Clair a little less so )

even in Toronto and the immediate area there are about 40 telephone listings

http://www.canada411.ca/search/?stype=si&what=leclair&where=toronto

there are just no records publicly available that will help


from the thread at rootschat someone sent you the details of the death certificate of her son George ( born 1909 in England ) in Vancouver

you also said this

'I have found something myself tonight, BMD388792 refers to the birth of a son to Mr and Mrs William Leclaire, child born 29/10/1926 = Barrie a son. theresa would have been 36 when she had the child. (if it is her) The announcement was in the Barrie Examiner.'

given the different spelling, LeclairE, it probably is not them. Barrie is rather north of Toronto if you look at a map. There are telephone listings there now for Leclair but not Leclaire ( which could have been misspelt )

http://www.canada411.ca/search/?stype=si&what=leclair&where=barrie&x=0&y=0

a dozen listings even in a small city in English Canada

did George's death certificate not tell you anything useful ?

you do need to print off the rootschat thread and read it through carefully again ... in case you did not keep the information about George's death this is the basic information, the person at rootschat may have given you more from the record on microfilm

http://search.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/sn-30DAA03/gbsearch/Births,Marriages,Deaths

Vital Event Death Registration
Name: George Bradley
Event Date: 1985 1 28 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 76
Gender: male
Event Place: North Vancouver
Reg. Number: 1985-09-002491
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B16571
GSU Microfilm Number: 1358011

I don't know how you already knew of his death

there are 4 George Bradley marriages in Vancouver 1925-1935 but all had middle names

there are too many possible passenger records to identify him travelling to Canada, this is one possibility but there are others with just an initial, no birthdate stated, etc

BRADLEY George 1909 M 1930 Southampton Canada Quebec

In Vancouver today there are some 35 Bradley listings and that is just Vancouver proper, it too is a large city with adjoining communities ( for example there are 17 in Nanaimo )

http://www.canada411.ca/search/?stype=si&what=bradley&where=vancouver

but you know there would never be any harm done in sending a letter to Bradleys in the area


do look at the rootschat thread again, I'm afraid there probably is no more that we can suggest to help

from familysearch the details of the George Bradley death record

Death Date: 28 Jan 1985
Death Place: North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Name: George Bradley
Gender: Male
Age: 76y
Birth Date: 24 Jan 1909
Birthplace: Manchester, England
Marital Status: Married
>>> Spouse: Rosina Renoden
Father: George Bradley
Mother: Teresa Dickenson
Film Number: 1358011
Digital Folder Number: 4437832
Image Number: 1499
British Columbia Archives Film Number: B16571
Registration Number: 85 09 002491

the surname Renoden is not found in any other bmd records in BC

but very probably this is her

parents: Frederick Owen Renoden, Ellen Renoden

record title: England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers, 1603-1910
name: Rosina Renoden
event: Christening
event date: 30 Jun 1907
event place: Chorlton-cum-Hardy (Manchester), Lancashire, England
father: Frederick Owen Renoden
mother: Ellen Renoden
digital folder number: 004452308

yes indeed

Marriages Dec 1933
Bradley George Renoden Manchester S. 8d 40
Renoden Rosina Bradley Manchester S. 8d 40

she is in three trees at this site ( one incorrectly says born 1910 ) ... one of them seems to be your cousin Angela ... so she had this information already too ... do you know the other two ?

they seem to have had three children in England

I checked trees here for the youngest one and Angela and one of the other people have him in their trees

are you in touch with her still ? she seems to have quite a lot of information that you may be forgetting or not be aware of