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Margaret
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28 Aug 2011 13:33 |
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HI,
Could anyone please find the birth f this lady?
Her parents were Thomas McGowan and Selina Blockley.
I have her marriage cert stating that she was 18 in 1898 and the parents names.
A relative thinks she may have been born in the Isle of Man but her birthplace in the 1901 Scottish census says England.
I have her on my trees in Genes and Ancestry.
Many thanks
Margaret
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MarieCeleste
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28 Aug 2011 13:38 |
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Hello Margaret, who did she marry and where? (Finding her on 1911 census might double check the birthplace)
Is it your tree on Ancestry that has her birthplace as Leicester?
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Andrew
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28 Aug 2011 13:39 |
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Was she born before her parents married?
Births Mar 1880 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blockley Lucy Amelia Barrow S. 7a 166
EDIT Yes
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blockley Selina Nottingham 7b 431 McGowan Thomas Nottingham 7b 431
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Vera
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28 Aug 2011 13:42 |
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1891
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COCKER, Mary Head Widow F 58 1833 Lodging Housekeeper And Grocer Easkey Sligo Ireland VIEW COCKER, Mary Daughter Single F 22 1869 Assistant Coneythorpe Yorkshire VIEW MANNINGHAM, Patrick Lodger Single M 30 1861 Labourer Thorpe Underwood England VIEW MILNER, Henry Lodger Married M 53 1838 Hawker Redcar Yorkshire VIEW CAMPBELL, Patrick Lodger Married M 40 1851 Labourer Ireland VIEW DARKIN, Michael Lodger M 42 1849 Labourer Ireland VIEW OHARA, Patrick Lodger M 40 1851 Clock Cleaner Carlisle Cumberland VIEW SMITH, William Lodger Married M 45 1846 Labourer Ballina Ireland VIEW TAYLOR, William Lodger Married M 24 1867 Labourer Bradford Yorkshire VIEW TAYLOR, Bridget Lodger Married F 20 1871 Hawker Whitby Yorkshire VIEW WHITE, Elizabeth Lodger Widow F 58 1833 Hawker Whitby Yorkshire VIEW ...........MCGOWN, Thomas Lodger Married M 34 1857 Labourer Mountsorrel VIEW ............MCGOWAN, Selina Lodger Married F 28 1863 Labourer Mountsorrel VIEW ............MCGOWAN, Lucy Lodger F 11 1880 Scholar Mountsorrel VIEW SMITH, Margaret Lodger Married F 28 1863 Hawker Co Durham VIEW NORMINGTON, William Lodger Married M 50 1841 Labourer Bradford Yorkshire VIEW BODLE, James Lodger Single M 39 1852 Labourer Newcastle Northumberland VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 3518 Folio: 114 Page: 4 Registration District: Knaresborough Sub District: Knaresborough Enumeration District: 11 Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity Civil Parish: Knaresborough Municipal Borough: Address: Briggate, Knaresborough County: Yorkshire (West Riding) Regards Vera
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Andrew
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28 Aug 2011 13:43 |
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1881 census
1881 England Census about Lucy M. Blockley Name: Lucy M. Blockley Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Inmate Gender: Female Where born: Rothley, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Rothley County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: "Workhouse" 7 Lester Rd Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar Sub-registration district: Rothley ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3152 Folio: 100 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age
Selina Blockley 18 Lucy M. Blockley 1
(Large list of names removed)
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MarieCeleste
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28 Aug 2011 13:45 |
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1891 has her & parents in a boarding house (have deleted the other lodgers):
MCGOWN, Thomas Lodger Married M 34 1857 Labourer Mountsorrel MCGOWAN, Selina Lodger Married F 28 1863 Labourer Mountsorrel MCGOWAN, Lucy Lodger F 11 1880 Scholar Mountsorrel
Registration District: Knaresborough Sub District: Knaresborough Enumeration District: 11 Ecclesiastical Parish: Holy Trinity Civil Parish: Knaresborough
Address: Briggate, Knaresborough County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
** I believe Mountsorrel is near Loughborough
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Vera
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28 Aug 2011 13:45 |
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Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BATEMAN Arthur Nottingham 7b 431 BETTNEY Florence Nottingham 7b 431 Blockley Selina Nottingham 7b 431 McGowan Thomas Nottingham 7b 431
Regards Vera
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Andrew
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28 Aug 2011 13:49 |
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1871 for Sekina. Also in Workhouse
1871 England Census about Selina Blockley Name: Selina Blockley Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Pauper Gender: Female Where born: Mountsorrel, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Rothley County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar Sub-registration district: Rothley ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 92 Piece: 3265 Folio: 73 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age
Lucy Blockley 11 Selina Blockley 8
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28 Aug 2011 13:50 |
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Birth?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Lucy Amelia Blockley Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1880 Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 166
EDIT: Oops, just noticed Andy posted this much earlier. But will add that I've looked up and Barrow upon Soar does indeed cover Mountsorrel.
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Margaret
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28 Aug 2011 13:53 |
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Hi,
She married Alexander McCormick on 28 May 1898 in Govan Glasgow.
It looks like her mother was in the workhouse with her ( the mother's ) sister in the Leicester area. The mothers sister was also Lucy Amelia.. I haven't put a place for the birth of the younger Lucy.
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MarieCeleste
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28 Aug 2011 13:55 |
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Hi Margaret - looks like you can now fill in that birthplace!
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Margaret
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28 Aug 2011 14:00 |
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Hi,
If I now have this correct Lucy Amelia Blockley was born in 1880 to Selina who was unmarried and then in 1888 Selina married Thomas McGowan who may or may not have been her father?
In the census does it say that Thomas McGowan was born in Mountsorrel?
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Margaret
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Vera
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28 Aug 2011 14:04 |
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?????
1871
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MCGOWAN, Ann Head F 38 1833 Ireland VIEW >>>>>>>>>>MCGOWAN, Thomas Son M 15 1856 England VIEW MCGOWAN, William Son M 13 1858 Isle of Man VIEW MCGOWAN, John Son M 11 1860 Isle of Man VIEW MCGOWAN, Margaret Daughter F 0 1871 Isle of Man VIEW MCCRANOR, Martin Boarder M 49 1822 Ireland VIEW HAMPTON, John Boarder M 50 1821 Isle of Man VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG10 Piece: 5775 Folio: 7 Page: 14 Registration District: Isle of Man Sub District: Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Conchan Municipal Borough: Address: Bond Lane, Conchan, Douglas County: Isle of Man Regards Vera
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Andrew
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28 Aug 2011 14:09 |
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Hi Margaret
Yes that appears to be correct. You MIGHT find details of the father on Lucy's birth cert.
Where Thomas was born varies between the census reacord. 1891 says Montsorrel but 1871 posted by Vera says Isle of Man. The family evidently moved around a lot!
Andy
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Margaret
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28 Aug 2011 14:22 |
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Hi Andrew,
Many thanks.
I have been looking for them in the 1901 and also deaths for Thomas and Selina with no luck. I have no access to the 1911.
They may have followed the daughter to Scotland when she got married there I guess.
Margaret
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Vera
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28 Aug 2011 14:25 |
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Although It looks like Thomas and his family lived in the Isle of Man on the 1871 census.....but according to that census Thomas was born in England.
Regards Vera
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Andrew
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28 Aug 2011 14:28 |
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There is one death record in Scotland for a Selina Mcgowan, but its a pay per view site.
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Vera
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28 Aug 2011 14:32 |
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1901 Scotland
Lucy Mccarmick Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : Alexander Mccarmick Gender: Female Where born: England Registration Number: 646/2 Registration district: Govan Civil parish: Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 14 Fleming St ED: 41 Household schedule number: 114 Line: 6 Roll: CSSCT1901_328 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Mccarmick 31 Lucy Mccarmick 21 Thomas Mccarmick 3 William Mccarmick 1 Regards Vera
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Margaret
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28 Aug 2011 14:36 |
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Hi,
Many thanks for all the help. I will do the pay per view tomorrow Andy..thanks
Best wishes
margaret
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