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Need help tying up a few loose ends - I'm looking for a marriage for Robert Henry Martin born 1880 in Newcastle upon Tyne. In 1901 he is living with his parents Jane and Robert and brother John in Newcastle but by 1911 there are two grandchildren living with Jane and Robert.
Mary Jane Martin born 1906 and John Martin born 1904.
I found a death of Robert Henry in 1905 so trying to find out if the children are his and if they are what happened to their mother.
His brother John is single in 1901 and 1911 hence I think the children are Roberts.

He married 1904 to either Margaret Diboll or Elizabeth Hagan.

Looks like it was Elizabeth
1911 58 bermondsey St newcastle upon Tyne
Robert henry martin 1880 a carter
Elizabeth 1882 married 7 years 5 kids 1 died
Winifred Ada 1910
Robert 1911.

So the death you have is incorrect.

Maryb

You could order birth certificates to get parents' names:

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
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MARTIN John Newcastle T 10b 196

Births Dec 1906 (>99%)
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Martin Mary Jane Newcastle T. 10b 155

The Robert Henry who died in 1905 was age 0.

So the death above must have been the one that had died on 1911

Robert Henry Martin @ 1881 died 1961 in Newcastle Upon Tyne 1b 217.
Maryb.

Other Martin children with mother's maiden name Hagan:

Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
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Martin Margaret Hagan Newcastle T 10b 189

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Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
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Martin Elizabeth Hagan Newcastle T. 10b 216

Hmm ok thanks for this. I'm even more confused now about the parents of John and Mary Jane.
There is a sister of Robert Henry - Margaret Martin who married John Skinner. Maybe I've missed some other siblings.

Unless I'm reading this wrong and they are children of Robert and Elizabeth - just not living with them?

Robert Henry married Elizabeth Hagan in 1904.
By 1911 they had 5 children, one had died, Robert Henry in 1905.
They had 2 children with them Winnifred 1910 and Robert 1911, The other 2 children were with their grandparents John 1904 and Mary Jane 1906.
They later had other children Margaret 1918 and Elizabeth 1921.
Robert Henry died in 1961.

Wiinifred Ada's birth:

Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
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MARTIN Winifred Ada Newcastle T 10b 157

And possibly Robert's?

Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
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MARTIN Robert A Newcastle T. 10b 184

Oh ok! that makes sense thanks.

From new thread:

Looking for the marriage between Robert Martin and Jane. Both Born c1843 in Newcastle upon Tyne. I need Janes maiden name. Likely to have been married in Newcastle/Northumberland - Thanks!

Answer: birth certificate will give Jane's maiden name.

Problem now is that Token has marked this thread as answered so people won't look at it.

Well, he'll jolly well have to untick it! :-)

He?

1871 at Stepney Street, Byker, Newcastle On Tyne
MARTIN, Robert Head M 27 1844 Newcastle Northumberland
MARTIN, Jane Wife F 28 1843 Newcastle
MARTIN, John Son M 3 1868 Newcastle
MARTIN, Margaret Daughter F 0 (8 mnth)1871 Newcastle

Two possible marriages

Marriages Jun 1866
Robertson Jane Newcastle T 10b 59

This seems more likely
Marriages Jun 1866
Doeg Jane Newcastle On Tyne 10b 20

Births Mar 1842
Robertson Jane Newcastle upon Tyne 25 311

Births Mar 1843
Doeg Jane Newcastle T. 25 341

unticked sorry.
and its she.

1851 Jane Doeg 1843 daughter of Margaret born 1810 a widow.
1861 has Jane Doge 1843 with mum Margaret.

Maryb.