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Cant find birth Records for Great Grand Mother

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kelly

kelly Report 24 Aug 2011 22:18

Hello. I am fairly new to this site yet managed to trace my grand fathers line back to 1810 and hope to go further. His Mother who is called WINIFRED MARGARET MAUND born 1920 is a mystery to us all! We cant find her birth records,i cant find her on any census at all and i am at a lost as there where she came from and where shes been living until she married my Great Grand Father in the 40s And became WINIFRED FULLARD.
They had 2 children together, Ann and Michael.

She dies young at 34 from lung cancer and this is all i know if her. Shes a very beautiful lady and although i have never met her i have always felt drawn to her and i feel i need to know more about her.

Any help would be deeply appreciated!

I really hope someone can help me dissolve the mystery of Winifred.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 24 Aug 2011 22:24

You don't say where she was born kelly but perhaps she was a little older than you thought. Could this be Winifred?

Births Dec 1918 (98%)
Maund Winifred M Gregson Skipton 9a 60

You won't find her on a census because the latest census available to the public is the one for 1911

Joy

Joy Report 24 Aug 2011 22:24

Before I look for her, can you check the years you have given, please. Thanks.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 24 Aug 2011 22:31

Name: Winifred Fullard
Birth Date: abt 1920
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1954
Age at Death: 34
Registration district: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 548


Name: Winifred M Maund
Spouse Surname: Fullard
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1942
Registration district: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 1694

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 24 Aug 2011 22:33

parents?

Marriages Jun 1915 (>99%)
Gregson Margaret Maund Skipton 9a 83
Maund Charles F Gregson Skipton 9a 83


siblings/
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Maund Charles F Gregson Skipton 9a 71

Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
Maund Marie Gregson Skipton 9a 74

Lynski

Lynski Report 24 Aug 2011 22:41

1911 census??

GREGSON, Isabella Head Single F 60 1851 Boarding House Keeper Yorkshire Cracoe VIEW
GREGSON, Margret Daughter Single F 28 1883 Waitress Restuarant Yorkshire Skipton VIEW
PINNOCK, Alfred James Boarder Single M 31 1880 Stationary Engineman Elstree Hertfordshire VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 25798
Reference: RG14PN25798 RG78PN1486 RD485 SD5 ED8 SN80
Registration District: Skipton Sub District: Skipton
Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Skipton
Address: 9 Hallam's Yard Skipton County: Yorkshire (West riding)

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 24 Aug 2011 22:44

1891 England Census about Charles Maund
Name: Charles Maund
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's name: Alfred Maund
Mother's name: Dinah Maund
Gender: Male
Where born: Norton Canon, Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: Yazor
Ecclesiastical parish: Yazor St Mary
Town: Mansell Lacy
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Weobley
Sub-registration district: Weobley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2067
Folio: 88
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Maund 26
Dinah Maund 27
Emma Maund 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Charles Maund 3
Arthur Maund 2
Minny Maund 1

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 24 Aug 2011 22:49

You need her marriage cert.
Jan

Joy

Joy Report 24 Aug 2011 22:52

Kelly, please return to your thread and check the years that you gave :-)

Lynski

Lynski Report 25 Aug 2011 02:29

As I read it, Kelly has managed to trace her grandfather's line back to 1810 but his mother was born c1920.

kelly

kelly Report 25 Aug 2011 19:32

Hello! so sorry i haven been unable to check before now!
I am pretty sure she was born in 1920 her name is winifred margaret maund then she married my great great father william fullard. I have her death and her marriage certificate but i have no idea about her birth!! I just cant seem to find it.

to add i dont know where she was born! i am assuming the walsall area as this is where she married,lived and died but i know that means little!

I know she died at 34 but today i learnt that died when my grandfather was just 12 he was born in 1944 so at 12 the year was 1956 minus her at of 34 gives 1922! but when i have seared for her i have "given or taken 4 years and still nothing comes up"????

REGARDING THE CENUS- I realize my mistake and i apologies for that! I was getting a little carried away i think! I just cant find her side of the family.
:-S :-S :-S

where is my winnie???

Many thanks for all your replies,deeply appreciated.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Aug 2011 19:40

Hello Kelly, on Winifred's marriage certificate what was her father's name and occupation?

It's quite an unusual name so the birth that Lancashireann found is a possibility - don't take ages on marriage certificates and death registrations as being 100% accurate, they often aren't!

Any other info you have from the marriage certificate like witnesses, address etc could be useful.

kelly

kelly Report 25 Aug 2011 19:40

see i am looking for a winifred margaret maund (this is on her marriage certificate, which i have a copy of) i know this is her name but there isnt a winifred m maund to match my winifred, many have different middlenames etc... I am now starting to think that MAUND is her MOTHERS maiden name and maybe not her fathers name,so she may not be maund? but on her marriage certificate it does say maund! Could she be adopted???

Thanks

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Aug 2011 19:42

The only birth I can see which comes close is the Skipton one above. If it were me I would get the cert and see.
Jan

kelly

kelly Report 25 Aug 2011 19:45

this is the only information i have on their marriage


ame William F Fullard
Year of Marriage 1942
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Walsall
Registration County Staffordshire
Spouse's Surname Maund
Volume Number 6B
Volume Page 1694

Spouse Match: William F FULLARD married Winifred M MAUND
Name Winifred M Maund
Year of Marriage 1942
Quarter of Marriage Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Walsall
Registration County Staffordshire
Spouse's Surname Fullard
Volume Number 6B
Volume Page 1694


can i get an copy of their marriage certificate from the local offices then? will they allow me to do this?

Thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Aug 2011 20:10

Kelly, you can also order on line from General Register Office:
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Cost £9.25 (which is about the same as from local offices)

What you had found was the marriage record, not the actual certificate. (But you did say you had a copy of her certificate?)

Joy

Joy Report 25 Aug 2011 20:12

Yes, Kelly, you can obtain it from the local register office.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 25 Aug 2011 23:06

just in case you have missed it Kelly here is the birth I found again

Births Dec 1918 (98%)
Maund Winifred M
mmn = Gregson
dist = Skipton
vol/page = 9a 60