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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Feb 2012 16:25

Hello Christine, and welcome to the boards.

Looks like we've been working from opposite directions and met in the middle!

Christine

Christine Report 8 Feb 2012 08:46

Theresa May Collier daughter of Robert & Jane Collier was born on 1st May 1870 and baptised on 31st July 1872 at Emmanuel Church, Compton Gifford, Devon

I found this posting because I was stuck as to what happened to Theresa as I could find no death, marriage or trace of her on later census records.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 19:35

Possible 1871:

COLLIER, Robert Head M 37 1834 Devon
COLLIER, Jane Wife F 32 1839 Somerset
COLLIER, Emna Daughter F 8 1863 Devon
COLLIER, Edward Son M 10 1861 Devon
COLLIER, Charles Son M 5 1866 Devon
COLLIER, Sidney Son M 3 1868 Devon
??COLLIER, Thressia Daughter F 0 1871 Devon

Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Sub District: Plympton
Enumeration District: 12
Civil Parish: Compton Gifford

Address: Mannamead Stables, Compton Gifford County: Devonshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 19:30

I'm guessing Thriz is her in 1881:

COLLIER, Robert Head Married M 47 1834 Cab Proprieter Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Jane Wife Married F 44 1837 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Edward Son Single M 20 1861 Cab Driver Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Charles Son Single M 15 1866 None Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Sonney Son Single M 13 1868 Compton Gifford Devon
>>COLLIER, Thriz Daughter Single F 10 1871 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Maunka Daughter Single F 8 1873 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Melia Daughter Single F 5 1876 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Mable Daughter Single F 4 1877 Compton Gifford Devon
COLLIER, Herniss Son Single M 0 1881 Compton Gifford Devon

Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Sub District: Plympton
Civil Parish: Compton-Gifford

Address: Elm Road Mannamead, Compton-Gifford County: Devonshire

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 9 Sep 2011 19:26

Marie, I believe you are correct as I have seen that before when someone not actually married, I couldn't find her either.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 19:24

Possible 1891? (Thursa is sometimes substituted for Theresa):

COLLIER, Robert Head Married M 56 1835 Cab Driver Plymstock Devonshire
COLLIER, Jane Wife Married F 54 1837 Porlock Somersetshire
COLLIER, Arthur S Son Single M 23 1868 Cab Driver Compton-Gifford Devonshire
>>COLLIER, Thursa M Daughter Single F 20 1871 Domestic Duties At Home Compton-Gifford Devonshire
COLLIER, Mabel Daughter F 14 1877 Scholar Compton-Gifford Devonshire
COLLIER, Ernest Son M 10 1881 Scholar Compton-Gifford Devonshire
COLLIER, Ernest C D Grandson M 1 1890 Plymouth Devonshire

Registration District: Plymouth
Sub District: St Andrew
Enumeration District: 8
Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church
Civil Parish: Plymouth
Municipal Borough: Plymouth

Address: 1, Gloucester Lane, Plymouth County: Devonshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Sep 2011 19:14

I know PH found a death a while back, but there is this, too:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Theresa M Collier
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 736

Wonder if they never married and death was registered in both names?

Can't find a Theresa Collier in any earlier census. Although she gave Collier as maiden name when birth registsred but perhaps that was actually a previous married name?

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 9 Sep 2011 19:00

I have now got the birth cert of one of William and Theresea's children. Theresas maiden name was Collier. Still cant find a marriage though. On the birth cert the father is named as Harry Chappell but still with the same occupation.

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Aug 2011 10:56

Thankyou
I live in Plymouth so I wonder if I might be able to find an obit for Theresa. Might get some info from that
Jeanette

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Aug 2011 10:42

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Theresa M Chappell
Name: Theresa M Chappell
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 736

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Aug 2011 10:39

The birth may not have been registered as it was before 1875 when penalties were introduced for not registering a birth. Before this date many births were not registered.

I think you will have to get one of the children's birth certificates for Theresa's full name.

Kath. x

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Aug 2011 10:37

No I cant either, I can find them on all the census above but cant find a marriage or birth for theresa
Jeanette

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 22 Aug 2011 10:33

Not only can I not find a marriage, I can't find a Thersa May birth

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 22 Aug 2011 10:31

Theresa had a middle name according to the 1911 census:-

CHAPPELL, William Henry Head Married M 42 1869 Porter Fa;mouth Cornwall
CHAPPELL, Theresa May Wife Married 20 years F 41 1870 Sweing Machinist Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, Dorothy May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Genl Servant Domestic Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, Marian Daughter Single F 16 1895 Genl Servant Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, Edward Percy Son Single M 11 1900 School Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, William Henry Son Single M 5 1906 School Plymouth Devon
CHAPPELL, Ronald Victor Son Single M 4 1907 Plymouth Devon

7 children born to the marriage. 5 alive and 2 have died.


Address:
6 Skardon Court Plymouth

Reference:
RG14PN13000 RG78PN749 RD276 SD3 ED24 SN295

I can't find a marriage for them on Findmypast. Perhaps they never actually married.

Kath. x

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Aug 2011 10:22

Theresa May Chappell
England and Wales Census, 1911

birth: Plymouth, Devonshire
residence: 1911 —Plymouth, Plymouth, Devonshire, England
census: 1911 —Plymouth, Plymouth, Devonshire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1911
name: Theresa May Chappell
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 41
birthplace: Plymouth, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Plymouth
sub-district: Plymouth South West
parish: Plymouth
county:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Aug 2011 10:17

Dorothy May Chappell
England and Wales Census, 1911

birth: Plymouth, Devonshire
residence: 1911 —Plymouth, Plymouth, Devonshire, England
census: 1911 —Plymouth, Plymouth, Devonshire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1911
name: Dorothy May Chappell
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 17
birthplace: Plymouth, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Plymouth
sub-district: Plymouth South West
parish: Plymouth
county:

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Aug 2011 10:15

William H Chappell
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1869 —Flushing, Cornwall
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Plymouth, Devonshire, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Plymouth, Devonshire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: William H Chappell
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 32
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Flushing, Cornwall
record type: Household
registration district: Plymouth
sub-district: St Andrew
ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
civil parish: Plymouth
county:

Jeanette

Jeanette Report 22 Aug 2011 10:11

Please can anyone help.
I am trying to find a marriage and Brides Surname.
I have William H Chappell born 1869 Falmouth. He married Theresa?
Their first child Dorothy was born 1894 Plymouth.
Theresa was born 1871 Plymouth, according to the 1901 census.
Jeanette