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1911 census help please

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Helen

Helen Report 18 Aug 2011 22:37

I was kindly given the details of my g g grand mothers death but i would love to have her details on the 1911 census. She was born about 1849 in Greenwich Kent, but died in Camberwell London, where she lived in the same block of flats as her son. She was widowed in 1888.
If anyone would look her up for me that would be appreciated. Thank you Helen

Name: Maria Seal
Record Type: Death
Estimated Death Date: 3 Feb 1916
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Parish or Poor Law Union: Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: London

Image of register shows her of 33b Block Evelina Mansions, New Church Road ..
buried Forest Hill 8.2.16.
Cause of death is shown as Arterio Sclerosis.

Record is from register of deaths at Constance Road Insitution.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Aug 2011 22:54

1901 just for info

Name: Maria Seal
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich

Civil parish: Deptford St Nicholas
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 526
Folio: 93
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Maria Seal 50
Sydney Seal 20
Robert Seal 16
Edith Seal 13


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Aug 2011 22:57

1911 ?
SEAL, Sydney Head Married M 30 1881 Store Assistant Catford Kent VIEW
SEAL, May Wife Married
6 years F 27 1884 London New Cross Deptford VIEW
SEAL, Lilian Daughter Single F 2 1909 Deptford Kent VIEW
SEAL, Ernest Son Single M 1 1910 Deptford Kent VIEW
SEAL, Minnie Visitor Single F 36 1875 Housemaid Domestic Lewisham Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2598 Reference:
RG14PN2598 RG78PN88 RD28 SD1 ED4 SN69

Registration District:
Greenwich Sub District:
Deptford North Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
St Paul Deptford

Address:
15 Rolt St Deptford S E

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 18 Aug 2011 22:59

1901

Address 84 Watergate St
Civil Parish St Nicholas Deptford
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Nicholas
Parliamentary Borough or Division Greenwich
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Greenwich
Administrative County London
Householder 1
Name Edith Seal
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 13
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born New Cross Kent
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Maria Seal
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Widow
Age Last Birthday 50
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Dressmaker
Employment Status
Where Born Greenwich Kent
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Robert Seal
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 16
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Baker
Employment Status
Where Born New Cross Kent
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Sydney Seal
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 20
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation ... Yard Laborer
Employment Status
Where Born Catford Kent
Language
Infirmity

1911 for son Sydney

Household information
Address 15 Rolt St Deptford S E
Parish St Paul Deptford
Town Deptford S E
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 2 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN2598 RG78PN88 RD28 SD1 ED4 SN69
Administrative County London
Registration District Greenwich
Registration Sub District Deptford North
Enumeration District 4
Householder 1
Name Sydney Seal
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Occupation Store Assistant
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Govt Dockyard
Place of Birth Catford Kent
Householder 2
Name May Seal
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / 6 Years
Total Children Born Alive 2
Children Still Living 2
Children Who Have Died 0
Gender F
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth London New Cross Deptford
Householder 3
Name Lilian Seal
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1909
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Deptford Kent
Householder 4
Name Ernest Seal
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1910
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Deptford Kent
Householder 5
Name Minnie Seal
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 36
Estimated Year of Birth 1875
Occupation Housemaid Domestic
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Lewisham Kent


Perhaps it's too late for my eyes and brain to be working but I can't locate her or her other son in the 1911. Two possibles for her daughter but both in different households.

Hope this gets you further along.

Jill

Helen

Helen Report 18 Aug 2011 23:03

Thank you Jill for looking for Sophia Seal for me. The 1901 census is the correct one for her. It is lovely to have her son sydney on the 1911 census ...brilliant.
I know that her son Albert Edward Seal was living in the same block of houses as she died in but I don't have her.
I think that I am learning that some ancestors always remain illusive what ever time of night it is :-) Thank you once again for your help. Helen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Aug 2011 23:13

Obviously as I am invisible I will not carry on with an address search on 1911

Lynski

Lynski Report 18 Aug 2011 23:13

Can you give names of some of her children.

I have not found her yet in 1911??

Helen

Helen Report 18 Aug 2011 23:19

Sorry glitter baby, sometimes post are answered so quickly that I get confused and so I thought that Jill and you were the same person. I always appreciate everyones help. I know that it takes time to look at census information and I am greatful.
Helen

names of children:
Minnie Sophie 1875
Henry William 1877
Sydney charles 1881
Albert Edward 1882 all lewisham kent
Robert Oliver 1885
Edith Alexander both Deptford newcross

That is all I know of anyway. Thank you for looking.
Helen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Aug 2011 23:21

1911 is this another son ?

SEAL, Henry William Head Married M 35 1876 Fireman L F B Lewisham Kent VIEW
SEAL, Alice Wife Married
6 years F 32 1879 Deptford Kent VIEW
SEAL, Gertrude Maud Daughter F 5 1906 Bishopogate City VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2132 Reference:
RG14PN2132 RG78PN73 RD25 SD5 ED33 SN43

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Norwood Enumeration District:
33 Parish:
Lambeth

Address:
17 Dunbar St West Norwood

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Aug 2011 23:24

1911 think the image is SEAL

SEAT, Robert O Head Married M 27 1884 General Labourer Middlesex Deptford VIEW
SEAT, Lily Wife Married
2 years F 27 1884 Berkshire Hungerford VIEW
SEAT, Ivy Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Kent Yorkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
28318 Reference:
RG14PN28318 RG78PN1620 RD515 SD2 ED11 SN60

Registration District:
Selby Sub District:
Selby Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Selby

Address:
67 New Lane Selby County:
Yorkshire (West riding)

Helen

Helen Report 18 Aug 2011 23:24

Looks like it glitter baby... I never knew who Henry married or his occupation, so this is exciting. Thank you.
Helen

Cor you don't hang around do you....Robert O SeaT ....that is a new spelling on me perhaps that is why his mother can not be found.
Again I am learning more and more about this part of my family. Thank you. Helen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Aug 2011 23:29

1911 another one possibly

SEAL, Albert Head Married M 31 1880 Baker Maker London Catford VIEW
SEAL, Rosina Wife Married
2 years F 26 1885 London Lewisham VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2511 Reference:
RG14PN2511 RG78PN84 RD27 SD3 ED27 SN387

Registration District:
Camberwell Sub District:
Camberwell North Enumeration District:
27 Parish:
Camberwell

Address:
24 Maude Road Camberwell



Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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GOULD Arthur William Lewisham 1d 2213
JOYCE Annie Lewisham 1d 2213
SEAL Albert Edward Lewisham 1d 2213
SIMPSON Rosina Lewisham 1d 2213

Helen

Helen Report 18 Aug 2011 23:32

Brilliant...Albert Edward Seal is my great grandfather and he married Rosina Jane Eliza Lucy Simpson (a great name). It is lovely to see a record of them on the 1911 census. Thank you...I am glad that I have not gone to bed (I am at my sisters, so I am taking advantage of her internet)!Helen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Aug 2011 23:35

Name: Henry William Seal
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Spouse Name: Alice Sailes
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 26 Sep 1904
Parish: St Paul, Deptford
County: London
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Francis Edmund Seal
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Sailes


Is the nameof father correct ?

Helen

Helen Report 18 Aug 2011 23:43

Sorry for the delay I had to attend to my son who is type one diabetic.....yes his father was Edmund Francis seal. Edmund died in 1888 while working as a plate layer at cannon street junction. In total 3 of the brothers had to go to a railway orphanage in Rugby because Maria Seal was unable to look after them all when her husband died. She must have had a hard life so that is why I would like to find out more about her and why I was pleased that she was near her son Albert when she died.

Thank you so much for the marriage reference, I love it when one can see the parents names so that one knows that it is correct.

Helen

:-)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 Aug 2011 23:44

1911

GODFREY, Joseph Head Married M 46 1865 Platelayers Labourer VIEW
GODFREY, Mary Ann Wife Married
23 years F 44 1867 Housework Cox Heath Maidstone VIEW
GODFREY, Henry Joseph Son M 14 1897 News And Office Boy Maidstone Kent VIEW
SEAL, Edith Alxandra Boarder Single F 23 1888 Machinist New Cross London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3645 Reference:
RG14PN3645 RG78PN137 RD42 SD1 ED16 SN304

Registration District:
Bromley Sub District:
Bromley Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Bromley

Address:
48 Liddon Road Bromley Kent

Helen

Helen Report 19 Aug 2011 00:15

Thank you for finding Edith on the 1911 census too. You are helping to make a complete picture of the family. Thank you. Helen :-D