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MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Aug 2011 22:06

I guess you meant Margaret was unmarried???

I would think that's the case.

I don't see a likely birth for her unless it's this one:
Births Dec 1875
Kennar Margaret Hannah Sunderland 10a 678
(long shot,I know!!)

Here is her brother:
Births Mar 1878 (>99%)
Karnen John Francis Sunderland 10a 648

Good luck with your research.

Maureen

Nigel

Nigel Report 15 Aug 2011 21:27

Hi again , in answer to Perchino's question I don't have any certs as just came over Margaret & James today.However the information from Maureen is certainly something I'll be looking into further and if right would mean that Margaret was married when she gave birth to James.as Ann advised

Also thanks to everyone else who took time out to help :-)

Nigel

Nigel Report 15 Aug 2011 21:02

Sorry folks having been ignoring you ,lost connection only just got back on ,will quickly have a read of replies received since i was last online

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Aug 2011 20:41

1911 census transcription details for: 14 Portobello Lane Monkwearmouth Sunderland
RG14PN30221 RG78PN1742 RD555 SD3 ED9 SN302


Reg. District: Sunderland Sub District: Sunderland North
Parish: Sunderland Enum. District: 9
Address: 14 Portobello Lane Monkwearmouth Sunderland
County: Durham


INGRAM, Thomas Head Widower M 66 1845 Labourer Durham Monkwearmouth
KERNER, John Francis Stepson Single M 33 1878 Labourer Sailor Gang Durham Monkwearmouth

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Aug 2011 20:36

DOH! Yes,Thomas and Jane are living next door to George and Margaret in 1901.
Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Aug 2011 20:33

They aren't making this easy!!!


Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)

Grieves Jane Sunderland 10a 813
Karnen James Sunderland 10a 813

Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%)
INGRAM Thomas Sunderland 10a 824
KERNAN Jane Sunderland 10a 824
KERNEN Jane Sunderland 10a 824

1891 census transcription details for: 14, Portobello Lane, Monk Wearmouth, Sunderland

RG number: RG12 Piece: 4148 Folio: 52 Page: 35


Reg. District: Sunderland Sub District: Monk Wearmouth
Parish: Monk Wearmouth Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District: The Venerable Bede City/Municipal Borough: Sunderland
Address: 14, Portobello Lane, Monk Wearmouth, Sunderland
County: Durham

INGRAM, Thomas Head Married M 45 1846 Factory Labourer
Sunderland
Durham
INGRAM, Jane Wife Married F 40 1851
Sunderland
Durham
CARNEY, Margaret M (???) Daughter F 15 1876 Rope Spinner
Sunderland
Durham
CARNEY, John F Son M 13 1878
Sunderland
Durham
INGRAM, William G Son M 8 1883
Sunderland
Durham
INGRAM, Eliz J Daughter F 7 1884
Sunderland
Durham
INGRAM, Thomas H Son M 5 1886
Sunderland
Durham
SHANKS, Margaret Boarder F 16 1875 Rope Spinner
Sunderland
Durham


Still don't know if I'm on the right track,though.

Maureen

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Aug 2011 20:21

Just wondering who this one is:

1881 census transcription details for: 11, Portobello Lane, Monk Wearmouth
RG number: RG11 Piece: 5005 Folio: 88 Page: 50


Reg. District: Sunderland Sub District: Monk Wearmouth
Parish: Monk Wearmouth Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Portobello Lane, Monk Wearmouth
County: Durham

GREIVES, John Head Widower M 25 1856 Sailor
Mwmouth
Durham
GREIVES, Robert Son Single M 7 1874
Mwmouth
Durham
GREIVES, Elsbeth Daughter Single F 1 1880
Mwmouth
Durham
KENEN, Jane Sister Widow F 30 1851
Bwmouth
Durham
>>KENEN, Margaret A Niece Single F 5 1876
Bwmouth
Durham
KENEN, John F Nephew Single M 3 1878
Bwmouth
Durham
KENEN, Elizabeth Lodger Married F 59 1822
Bwmouth
Durham
KENEN, Francis Lodger Married M 60 1821
Ireland

Maureen

tempest

tempest Report 15 Aug 2011 20:15

explains the 1911 census

BMD Search result details Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: RIDLEY, Thomas Stephenson
Registration District: Sunderland
County: Durham
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume No: 10A
Page No: 1115

MarriageFinder™: Thomas Stephenson Ridley married one of the following people

WEGGELAND, Margaret A
MARRIN, Elizabeth
NEWTON, Nicholas Cowey view record


tempest

tempest Report 15 Aug 2011 20:11

rule that marriage out

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about Robert James Kernen Name: Robert James Kernen
Birth Year: abt 1859
Age: 31
Marriage Date: 14 Jul 1890
Parish: Everton St Cuthbert
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Wynn
Father's name: John Kernen
Spouse Father's Name: James Wynn

tempest

tempest Report 15 Aug 2011 20:09

BMD Search result details Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: KERNEN, Robert James
Registration District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 653

MarriageFinder™: Robert James Kernen married one of the following people

WYNN, Elizabeth
FAZARERLEY, Margaret Ann
JONES, Thomas view record


Gee

Gee Report 15 Aug 2011 20:03

Sorry Nigel I misread your post

Perchino

Perchino Report 15 Aug 2011 20:03

Do you have James's birth certificate?

patchem

patchem Report 15 Aug 2011 20:02

The 1898 marriage certificate will have her father's name on it, for confirmation of her marital status and maiden name.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Aug 2011 20:00

she probably wasn't married to a Mr Kernan or anyone else for that matter

tempest

tempest Report 15 Aug 2011 20:00

1911 census

Address: 13 Portobello Lane Monkwearmouth Sunderland

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

RIDLEY, Thomas Stephenson Head Married M 38 1873 Labourer Ship Platers Helper Durham Monkwearmouth
RIDLEY, Margaret Ann Wife Married 16 years F 35 1876 Durham Monkwearmouth
KERNEN, James Stepson Single M 17 1894 Labourer Flint Glass Works Durham Monkwearmouth
RIDLEY, Florence Annie Weggeland Daughter F 9 1902 Durham Monkwearmouth
RIDLEY, Jane Daughter F 5 1906 Durham Monkwearmouth
RIDLEY, William Son M 2 1909 Durham Monkwearmouth

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Aug 2011 19:59

James Kernan
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1894 —Sunderland, Durham
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Sunderland, Durham, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Sunderland, Durham, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: James Kernan
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 7
relationship to head of household: Step Son
birthplace: Sunderland, Durham
record type: Household
registration district: Sunderland
sub-district: Monkswearmouth
ecclesiastical parish: Monkwearmouth Ven Bede
civil parish: Sunderland

Nigel

Nigel Report 15 Aug 2011 19:58

Hi Perchino

That's James birth record

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Aug 2011 19:57

Margt Weggeland
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1876 —Sunderland, Durham
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Sunderland, Durham, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Sunderland, Durham, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Margt Weggeland
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
age: 25
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Sunderland, Durham
record type: Household
registration district: Sunderland
sub-district: Monkswearmouth
ecclesiastical parish: Monkwearmouth Ven Bede
civil parish: Sunderland
county:

Nigel

Nigel Report 15 Aug 2011 19:56

Hi Ann

Thanks for that ,however can you find any information re a marriage between Margaret Ann X & Mr Kernan probably around 1892 /1893?

Perchino

Perchino Report 15 Aug 2011 19:54

Is this James's birth?

Name James Kernen
Year of Registration 1893
Quarter of Registration Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Sunderland
Registration County Durham
Mother's maiden name
Volume Number 10A
Volume Page 670

Possible marriage for Margaret:

Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
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Kernen Robert James W. Derby 8b 653