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12 Aug 2011 18:43 |
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1881 census Address Parish Eling District New Forest, Eling Administrative County Hampshire
Householder 1 Name George Green Age 54 Estimated Year of Birth 1827 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Basket Maker Birth Place Basingstoke Birth County Hampshire
Householder 2 Name Eliza Green Age 52 Estimated Year of Birth 1829 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Basket Maker Birth Place Basingstoke Birth County Hampshire
Householder 3 Name Unity Green Age 22 Estimated Year of Birth 1859 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Basket Maker Birth Place Lymington Birth County Hampshire
Householder 4 Name Mary Green Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1871 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Dorchester Birth County Dorset
Householder 5 Name Priscilla Green Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1875 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Wimbourn Birth County Hampshire
Householder 6 Name Edith Green Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1881 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Hartley Birth County Hampshire
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12 Aug 2011 11:54 |
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and another
1891 census Address Caravan, Charminister Road Parish Holdenhurst District Christchurch, Christchurch Administrative County Hampshire
Householder 1 Name Britania Barney Age 45 Estimated Year of Birth 1846 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Hawker Birth Place Alton Birth County Hampshire
Householder 2 Name Edith Barney Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1879 Relationship to Head of Household Niece Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Bristol, Moordown Birth County
Householder 3 Name James Barney Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1881 Relationship to Head of Household Nephew Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Holdenhurst Birth County Hampshire
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12 Aug 2011 11:52 |
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another possible
1901 census Address Travelling Caravan Near Rooksgrove Civil Parish Warnford Entire Rural District Droxford Town or Village or Hamlet Warnford Ecclesiastical Parish Warnford St John Entire Parliamentary Borough or Division Eastern Or Petersfield County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Administrative County Southampton
Householder 1 Name Daisey Barney Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 25 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Chichester Language Infirmity Householder 2 Name George Barney Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 27 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Casual Farm Laborer Employment Status Where Born Chichester Language Infirmity
Householder 3 Name Noah George Barney Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 3 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born Sheet Hants Language Infirmity
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12 Aug 2011 11:41 |
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another possible connection
1911 census Household information Address Fishers Pond Near Eastleigh Parish Owslebury Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms 4 Rooms Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN6134 RG78PN284 RD103 SD3 ED5 SN203 Administrative County Hampshire Registration District Winchester Registration Sub District Twyford Enumeration District 5
Householder 1 Name George Barney Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 53 Estimated Year of Birth 1858 Occupation Gipsy Dealer Travellirs Employed Y Working at Home Y Place of Birth Bittern Southampton Hants
Householder 2 Name Britania Barney Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married / 27 Years Total Children Born Alive 13 Children Still Living 11 Children Who Have Died 2 Gender F Age 46 Estimated Year of Birth 1865 Occupation Assisting In The Business Employed Y Working at Home Y Place of Birth Alton Hants
Householder 3 Name Lavenia Barney Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married / Years Gender F Age 21 Estimated Year of Birth 1890 Occupation Assisting In The Business Employed Y Working at Home Y Place of Birth Hambleton Hants Householder 4 Name George Barney Relationship to Head of Household Son Condition / Years Married / Years Gender M Age 18 Estimated Year of Birth 1893 Occupation Assisting In The Business Employed Y Working at Home Y Place of Birth Winchester Hants
Householder 5 Name Alice Barney Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married / Years Gender F Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1896 Occupation Assisting In The Business Employed Y Working at Home Y Place of Birth Sholing Hants
Householder 6 Name Britania Barney Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1899 Occupation School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Sholing Hants
Householder 7 Name Noah Barney Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1901 Occupation School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Alton Hants
Householder 8 Name Horace Barney Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 8 Estimated Year of Birth 1903 Occupation School Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Winchester Hants
Householder 9 Name Job Barney Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1905 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Alton Hants
Householder 10 Name Mary Barney Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 3 Estimated Year of Birth 1908 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Sarisbury Hants Green
Householder 11 Name Harriett Barney Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 7 Month Estimated Year of Birth 1911 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Petersfield Hants
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12 Aug 2011 11:23 |
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same family i gave you in 1871
1891 census Address 33, School Road Parish Hound District South Stoneham, St Mary Extra Administrative County Hampshire
Householder 1 Name Vanloc Barney Age 58 Estimated Year of Birth 1833 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Licensed Hawker Birth Place Farringdon Birth County Hampshire
Householder 2 Name Alice Barney Age 46 Estimated Year of Birth 1845 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Andover Birth County Hampshire
Householder 3 Name Job Barney Age 21 Estimated Year of Birth 1870 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Licensed Hawker Birth Place Inkpen Birth County Berkshire
Householder 4 Name Mary Barney Age 16 Estimated Year of Birth 1875 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Licensed Hawker Birth Place Nursling Birth County Hampshire
Householder 5 Name Harriett Barney Age 11 Estimated Year of Birth 1880 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Chilworth Birth County Hampshire
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12 Aug 2011 10:25 |
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its very possible, bd ,as in most gypsie familys thay did not register there kids when thay were born it could be a few years later at the gatherings for hop picking as that was what thay did , thay did the same for weddings thay would wait till all met up and got married to gether so all the familys would not miss out .thay were very close people nothing like todays people .;;;;;;;;;i would like to thank all of you who have given me lots of work to do, sorting this lot out .there will be a lot of :-( is that right or :-0 wow yes and ;-) oh so thats what went on and :-Swhere do i go from here and finaly :-D yes kind regards uni
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11 Aug 2011 14:46 |
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1891 England Census about Rhoda Hughes Name: Rhoda Hughes Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Hughes Gender: Female Where born: Egham, Surrey, England Civil parish: Overton Heath Ecclesiastical parish: Overton Town: Overton Heath County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Marlborough Sub-registration district: Marlborough ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1598 Folio: 181 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Hughes 54 Rhoda Hughes 55 Janet Hughes 27 Henry Hughes 21 Phoebe Hughes 17 >>>>>>>Ellen Hughes 14 Edward Hughes 12 Britannia Hughes 9 Harriet Hughes 8 William Hughes 6 Priscilla Hughes 3 Hezekiah Hughes 3/12 Hawkers!!!!
From Britannia down they are Grandchildren to Rhoda.
Could your Ellen have been born a little later????
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11 Aug 2011 14:35 |
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Just going on areas;
1891 England Census about Emily Hughes Name: Emily Hughes Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Andover, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Milton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Milton County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Pewsey Sub-registration district: Collingbourne ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1613 Folio: 113 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Matilda Hughes 77 >> Hawker born Somerset Matilda Hughes 28 Emily Hughes 14
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11 Aug 2011 14:31 |
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Maybe???
1901 England Census about Rhoda Hughes Name: Rhoda Hughes Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Alton, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Wells St Cuthbert Out Ecclesiastical parish: Horsington County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Wells Sub-registration district: Wells ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 148 Piece: 2315 Folio: 37 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Rhoda Hughes 66 >> occupation; Hawker Emily Hughes 21 >> daughter born Pewsey Wiltshire Edward Hughes 20 >>> son born Andover hants Henry Chivers 14 Address; Caravans!!!
Below them is
Henry Hughes age 28 born Andover and his family.
Looks like your Hughes family!!!
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11 Aug 2011 14:18 |
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1891 England Census about Britania Barney Name: Britania Barney Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Alton, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Holdenhurst Ecclesiastical parish: Moordown Town: Winton County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Christchurch Sub-registration district: Christchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 905 Folio: 167 Page Number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Britania Barney 45 Single Edith Barney 12 >> Niece James Barney 13 >> Nephew
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11 Aug 2011 14:10 |
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looks like Rhoda was a TWIN:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1839 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barney Britannia Alton 7 15 Barney Rhoda Bella Alton 7 15
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11 Aug 2011 14:01 |
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possible connection
1871 census Address Gipseys Tent Parish St John District Winchester, Winchester Administrative County Hampshire
Householder 1 Name Vandalon Barney Age 35 Estimated Year of Birth 1836 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Birth Place Hampshire Birth County Hampshire
Householder 2 Name Alice Barney Age 35 Estimated Year of Birth 1836 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Hampshire Birth County Hampshire Householder 3 Name Lovinnia Barney Age 12 Estimated Year of Birth 1859 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Hampshire Birth County Hampshire
Householder 4 Name Emma Barney Age 11 Estimated Year of Birth 1860 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Hampshire Birth County Hampshire
Householder 5 Name Emiline* Barney Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1861 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Hampshire Birth County Hampshire
Householder 6 Name Britannia Barney Age 6 Estimated Year of Birth 1865 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Hampshire Birth County Hampshire
Householder 7 Name Ahalia Barney Age 2 Estimated Year of Birth 1869 Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Hampshire Birth County Hampshire Householder 8 Name Job Barney Age 0 Estimated Year of Birth 1871 Relationship to Head of Household Son Occupation Juvenile Birth Place Berkshire Birth County Berkshire
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11 Aug 2011 13:31 |
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1851 England Census about Rhoda Barney Name: Rhoda Barney Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Scholar Gender: F (Female) Where born: N Civil parish: Farnham County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address:
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Disability: View image Registration district: Wimborne Sub-registration district: Cranborne ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 27 Piece: 1854 Folio: 68 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Elizebeth Irland 48 Andy Ayers 13 >>>Britannia Barney 19 Mary Ann Milles 16 Lucy Bowers 11 Rhoda Barney 11 >>>Mary Barney 9 Austineline Barney 10 >>>Henry Barney 8 >>>Daugerfill Barney 7 Henry Milles 8 Henry Marton 8 Samuel Marton 6 Address is Gypsy Scholar Establishment
Someone else has corrected this;
1841 England Census about Rodabella Barney Name: Rodabella Barney [Rodabella Barney/Barnes] Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Gender: Female Where born: Hampshire, England Civil parish: St Mary Extra Hundred: Mainsbridge (Upper Half) County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: South Stoneham Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 402 Book: 11 Folio: 34 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Henry Barney 45 Harriett Barney 45 Elizabeth Barney 16 James Barney 12 Andrew Barney 13 Ellen Barney 10 Mary Ann Barney 6 Bulannra Barney 4 Amelaine Barney 3 Rodabella Barney 3
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11 Aug 2011 13:14 |
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Name Ellen Barney Year of Marriage 1912 Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun Registration District Fareham Registration County Hampshire Spouse's Surname Dockett Volume Number 2B Volume Page 1310 Spouse Match: Ellen BARNEY married John DOCKETT Name John Dockett Year of Marriage 1912 Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun Registration District Fareham Registration County Hampshire Spouse's Surname Barney Volume Number 2B Volume Page 1310
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11 Aug 2011 13:02 |
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I assume you meant James married 1916 not his daughter
Marriages Jun 1916 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Baker James E M - Hunt - Christchurch 2b 1582 Hunt Elizabeth M - Baker - Christchurch 2b 1582
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11 Aug 2011 12:57 |
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1891 England Census about Stephen Green Name: Stephen Green Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: New Forest, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Lyndhurst Ecclesiastical parish: Emery Down Christ Church Town: Gritenham County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: New Forest Sub-registration district: Lyndhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 910 Folio: 40 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Alford Hesicah 29 Mary A Hesicah 21 Hesicah Hesicah 1/12 Fred H Hesicah 1 Stephen Green 21 George Wills 18
Think the surname is ALFORD Address states; Gypsy's in the woods.
Dee x
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11 Aug 2011 12:48 |
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Hi Uni,
I see that George gives different places and years of birth;
1871 England Census about George Green Name: George Green Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Green Gender: Male Where born: Oakfield, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Bere Regis County/Island: Dorset Country: England Registration district: Wareham Sub-registration district: Bere Regis ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 136 Piece: 1997 Page Number: 26 Household Members: Name Age George Green 36 >>> Basket maker Eliza Green 30 >> Sussex George Green 13 >> Wiltshire Unity Green 9 >> Dorset Stephen Green 3 >> Hampshire Dee x
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11 Aug 2011 12:37 |
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yes i do here are some thanks;(george green 1827 basingstoke wife eliza wilkins 1829 basingstoke)both gr gr granparents i no nothing .then james baker gr gr granparents nothing for him or wife but there daughter born 1887 died 8/4/1961 married 23/5/1916 christchurch)and rhoda bella barney gr gr granparents and husband john hughes no dates for them or where thay came from but there daughter ellen barney was born 1872 married 18/6/1912 she is my gr gran)last at the mo is( john duckett born 1875 married 18/6/1912 died 6/4/1961 he is ellen barneys huband, its johns father henry and his wife i need to find. any info on any of my family would be great and thanks for getting intouch kind regards uni :-D
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10 Aug 2011 15:27 |
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HI UNITY do you have any naes and dates or places maddie
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10 Aug 2011 14:15 |
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can anyone help me with my great and gr gr grandparents as yes i am of gypsie blood born on the newforest,but when i was 2years old when we were put in a house so i have lost my heritage.i no next to nothing about my relatives as they all lost touch being put in different aireas and no we are nothing to do with people off the tv ,( my big fat gypsie wedding) ,our kind would have made them put some cloths on and we are not irish tinkers either which people seem to think we are, we are not most of us are good normal people with a past we would like to no about like all of you :-D so if anyone can help i am looking for the above and more but these will do for now kind regards uni :-)
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