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I'm looking for the birth of William Wemyss Dobson c. 1858

He lived in Dundee, Scotland most of his life and emigrated to Australia in the early 1900's with his family. However, I can't find his birth record anywhere. According to the 1901 census he was born in Leven, Fife but on earlier census it states he was born in kirkcaldy, Fife. He was also Deaf and Dumb. I can't find him on the 1861 census right after his birth.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Denise

That should be wemyss not weymss

Denise

You need www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

it is a paying site sorry where you buy credits .

Do you know his parents names please and any siblings you know of .
Sue

A copy of his marriage cert should name his parent

I'm a regular new register house goer andcan't find his birth record there anywhere. His marriage states that his parents are unknown. I'm awaiting his death transcript from Australia which may show his parents names.

nudge

Do you have this for him? From http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/showPerson?pid=80155

William Weymss DOBSON

Regimental number 2087
Place of birth Dundee, Scotland
Other Names William Weymiss
Religion Presbyterian
Marital status Single
Age at embarkation 28
Next of kin Sister, c/o Miss Jane Ann Dobson, Moorecliff Hospital, Miller's Point, Sydney, New South Wales
Enlistment date 12 January 1915
Place of enlistment Liverpool, New South Wales
Rank on enlistment Private
Unit name 3rd Battalion, 5th Reinforcement
AWM Embarkation Roll number 23/20/2
Embarkation details Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A55 Kyarra on 13 April 1915
Rank from Nominal Roll Driver
Unit from Nominal Roll 3rd Battalion
Fate Returned to Australia 21 March 1919

Just for reference:
1901 Scotland Census
William Dobson
Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Bella Dobson
Gender: Male Where born: Leven, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 282/2 Registration district: St Mary
Civil parish: Liff and Benvie County: Angus
Address: 8, Pole St Occupation: Iron Labourer
ED: 20 Household schedule number: 67 Line: 20 Roll: CSSCT1901_95

William Dobson 43
Bella Dobson 34
George Dobson 15
William Dobson 13
Jane Ann Dobson 6
Jane Robertson 60

Source Citation: Parish: Liff and Benvie; ED: 20; Page: 15; Line: 20; Roll: CSSCT1901_95; Year: 1901.

Does he use the name Wemyss on any of the censuses?

This says Jane is his mother-in-law
1891 Scotland Census
William Dobson
Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Isabella Dobson
Gender: Male Where born: Kirkcaldy, Fifeshire
Registration Number: 282/1 Registration district: St Peter
Civil parish: Dundee
County: Angus Address: 25 Millars Wynd Occupation: Iron Dresser
ED: 9 Household schedule number: 205 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1891_86

William Dobson 33
Isabella Dobson 24
George Dobson 5
William Dobson 3
Jane Robertson 50

Source Citation: Parish: Dundee; ED: 9; Page: 35; Line: 18; Roll: CSSCT1891_86; Year: 1891.

Wouldn't the military record be his son?

Ozi

Thamks Patchem I do have the information you sent but he doesn't use the name wemyss on the census and you will also see my confusion as sometimes the census states that he was born in Leven and the over kirkcaldy?

Were father and son both called William Wemyss?

Yes Ozi, I've just realized that the military record is the son. :-D

Have you found him in 1871?

Yes Ozbird, the military records are for his son William, I have been in contact with his grand daughter in Australia but there is little or no information on his father william. i did find out that William (the father) is buried in Rookwood cemetery but I can't find any details about his parents?

No I haven't found him in 1871?

yes, both father and son were called william wemyss dobson. William Jnr's nephew (my great uncle) is also called the same

I know you probably have this.

1881 Scotland Census
Name: Jane Robertson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : George Robertson
Gender: Female
Where born: Arbroath, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 272
Registration district: Arbroath
Civil parish: St Vigeans <<<<<<<<<<<
County: Angus
Address: 22 Smithy Croft
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 192
Line: 5
Roll: cssct1881_76
Household Members:
Name Age
George Robertson 49
Jane Robertson 40
Isobella Robertson 14 - William's wife


These may be related somehow as there are not too many Dobsons about.

1861 Scotland Census
Name: David Dobson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relationship: Son
Mother's name: Isabella Dobson
Gender: Male
Where born: St Vigeans, Forfarshire <<<<<<<<<<<
Registration Number: 459
Registration district: Wemyss <<<<<<<<<<<
Civil parish: Wemyss
County: Fife
Address: Old Town
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 35
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_60
Household Members:
Name Age
Isabella Dobson 30
Robert Dobson 7
David Dobson 5

Is there a connection here?

1881 Scotland Census
Name: William Dobson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkcaldy, Fifeshire <<<<<<<<<
Registration Number: 282/5
Registration district: Lochee
Civil parish: Liff <<<<<<<<<<<<< [where they were in 1901]
County: Angus
Address: 70 South Rd
Occupation: Yarn Bundler [wrong type of occupation]
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 175
Line: 19
Roll: cssct1881_89
Household Members:
Name Age
John Robertson 52
Elizabeth Robertson 52
Angus Robertson 21
Charles Robertson 18
William Dobson 23

Thanks OzBird, There could be a few connections. maybe because William was deaf and dumb, he was given the name of the place where he was born. Wemyss is the next district over to where I live

OzBird the 1881 census id definatley him as that is what I also found