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Is someone knows where finding the archives of all schools in responsability of the Catholic Protection and Resue Society ?
Maybe it's the place to search to found something.

No Potty...Have deleted nothing...!!
Wonder where that has gone..???
Gremlins at work again..
Thank you for finding something thats not posted ...!!

Fennety

On the birth cert, what does it give as the Registration District and Sub-district ?

This is the James Erin had found in Lancaster
(Erin, have you deleted it?)

1891 England Census
about James Finnerty
Name: James Finnerty
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Lancaster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Lancaster
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3467
Folio: 18
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Corless 38
Ellen Corless 33
Robert Corless 4
Alfred Turner 21
Mary A Turner 20
George A Turner 1
John Finnerty 45 widower, b Manchester
James Finnerty 8 b Manchester

On the 1891 census, Buckley Hall is described as "Roman Catholic Orphanage certified by ****** Government Board as a Poor Law School..." (*** I cannot make out this word)

It was in the Wardleworth area of Rochdale.

Is there a street address on the birth cert?

There is no Finnerty listed as a resident

Fennety...Buckley Hall was a Boys Home just outside Rochdale run by the Bros of Charity...Part of the Catholic Protection and Resue Soc. set up by Cardinal Vaughan ...they took boys from all areas of Gretaer Manchester....This may be where his "Birth Place" confusion arises.

The home in Patricroft would have been St Joseph's again part of the CPRC which was for children under 12 and run by the Sisters of Mercy....

Why he would have moved from one to another is "interesting"


I wonder could his mothers name be ??? O'Gorman...like you I have been unable to find anything for O'Goffren.

Here in Canada on his birth certificate they give birth oct 17 1884 in Buckley, England and his parents are James and Mary O'Goffren.
The Salford Protection and Rescue Society had at this time a small monthly newspaper naned The Harvest. In april 1893 they published all schools where the childrens come and one is Buckley Hall (boys).
I'm asking if it's not the same Buckley as on birth certificate.

Hello Fennety,


It may be worth your while putting the name Finnerty (in all it's forms) into the Search Trees box above (in the dark green bar). There are some possibilities of relationships there for you. You can contact the tree owners for further details. Regards. Cx




Mike * - Rudolph Wensleslas of course! :-D

Nice one !
Wonder what R W stood for ?

Someone in West Ham.. March Quarter 1878... had a sense of the ridiculous...probably born Christmas Day.

FINNETY Merry Christmas R W. Ham 4a 54

A child born Oct could I suppose, be registered in January the following year, thus coming under the March Quarter.

However, as the poster has detailed the parents, it points to being the one born 1881.

I wondered if the first one died and they named a second son James, but looking at the Lancashire record, it appears he was born under his mother's name.


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1885
FINERTY James - Oldham Below Town Oldham - FINERTY

The only birth I could find in Great Manchester area is this one, but its 1885 not 1884.

Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
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FINERTY James Oldham 8d 664

Just to add when the birth is registered isn't when you are born you have a time limit on when you have to register the birth it is an offence (and was then) if you either didn't register the birth or if you registered birth late. I am not sure what the time limit would of been then, but now I think it is about 2 to 3 months.

Is the information of your grandfathers birth on a birth Certificate? If you have the birth certificated registered in Rochdale registration district then that is where he would of been born.

Here in UK you register the birth in the registration district you were born.

The James in the 1881 census was 10 weeks old. which wouldn't equate to an October birth

Are you sure he was born 1884 ?
Where did you get his DOB from please ?





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Births Mar 1881
FINERTY James - Oldham 8d 655

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Quote "James Finnerty who was birth on october seventeen 1884 probably in Buckley, Rochdale,

On his birth act his father name was James ..............."

If you have his birth registration, surely it tells you where he was born ???

Can't see a birth in 1884 on freebmd
or a marriage for the parents.

Could this all have happened in Ireland ?

I'm searching about the parents of my grandfather James Finnerty who was birth on october seventeen 1884 probably in Buckley, Rochdale, Greater Manchester.
In 1893 he was at Patricroft Home as an orphan. The same year he was take in charge by the Salford Protection and Rescue Society to emigrate to Canada. He embarked at Liverpool on the steamer Circassian on May eleventh 1893.
On his birth act his father name was James and mother was Mary O'Goffren but I never find anything else on that name. I suppose it may be O'Godfrey or something like that.
Here in Canada his name was Fennety.