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Thank you everyone. Sorry about the late reply
Ann Elizabeth Darbey-Burden is my gt grandfathers sister.

All this information has helped me to see the GR member who thought we shared the same family is mistaken

Thanks again

Just realized all boys.

I reckon that 1861 census Flick put up was mistranscribed and William should have been 2 not 12 and Joseph 1?

1871 England Census
about Martha Darby
Name: Martha Darby
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Darby
Gender: Female
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Aston Street and Toll End
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Household schedule number: 273
Piece: 3000
Folio: 84
Page Number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Darby 33
Martha Darby 31
William Darby 13
Joseph Darby 11
Alfred Darby 9
Thomas Darby 7
George Darby 6
James Darby 2
Isaiah Darby 1 Month

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William Henry Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 MAR 1859 Ettingshall, Stafford, England


Parents:
Father: Joseph Darby Family
Mother: Martha


Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Martha Danks
Name: Martha Danks
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1858
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6c
Page Number: 39



John Barratt Apr-May-Jun 1858 Dudley Staffordshire

***Martha Danks Apr-May-Jun 1858 Dudley Staffordshire

***Joseph Darbey Apr-May-Jun 1858 Dudley Staffordshire

Sarah Jackson Apr-May-Jun 1858 Dudley Staffordshire

Only a recorded marriage but could well be right.

Ann Elizabeth Darby-Burden Pedigree
Female Family

Marriages:
Spouse: Edward Lester Family
Marriage: 16 SEP 1861 Lower Gornall, Stafford, England

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

Only a recorded marriage but could well be right.

Ann Elizabeth Darby-Burden Pedigree
Female Family

Marriages:
Spouse: Edward Lester Family
Marriage: 16 SEP 1861 Lower Gornall, Stafford, England

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.

I wonder if the William Darby on the 1861 census is actually Martha's brother and not her son - William Danks who was 2 years old in 1851 census.

Kath. x

1851

Name: Martha Danks
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Michael Danks
Mother's name: Maria Danks
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Tipton

Civil parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Tipton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Piece: 2029
Folio: 66
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Michael Danks 36
Maria Danks 38
Charlotte Danks 13
Martha Danks 12
Eliza Danks 9
Maria Danks 8
Joseph Danks 5
William Danks 2
John Danks 2 Weeks
Sarah Baggott 35 Visitor
Catharine Baggott 8
Martha Baggott 13

Name: Martha Darby
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph Darby
Gender: Female
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Bilston
Ecclesiastical parish: Ettingshall
Town: Bilston
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Bilston
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 2008
Folio: 73
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Darby 24 Gamekeeper, b. Dudley
Martha Darby 21
William Darby 12 *******as per image, but impossible
Joseph Darby 2

Please can you find 1861 census
Joseph DARBY 1837
Martha Darby 1840

living in Wolverhampton

Im trying to see if this is Joseph who married Martha Danks and matches the 1871 census you gave me

Thank you

Thank you Kathleen. I have passed this information on

1871 census:-

DARBY, Joseph Head M 33 1838 Worcestershire <<<<
DARBY, Martha Wife F 31 1840 Staffordshire <<<<
DARBY, William Son M 13 1858 Staffordshire
DARBY, Joseph Son M 11 1860 Staffordshire
DARBY, Alfred Son M 9 1862 Staffordshire <<<<
DARBY, Thomas Son M 7 1864 Staffordshire
DARBY, George Son M 6 1865 Staffordshire
DARBY, James Son M 2 1869 Staffordshire
DARBY, Isaiah Son M 0 1871 Staffordshire

Address:
Aston Street, Tipton

RG number: RG10
Piece: 3000
Folio: 84
Page: 49

POSSIBLE birth for this Alfred:-

Name: DARBY, Alfred
Registration District: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6C
Page No: 48


Kath. x

Thank you again.

The GR member has her Alfred Darby/Darbey as the son of Joseph Darby and Martha Danks. She isnt doing the tree herself her friend is and I dont think she has any certs as proof.

Can you find her Alfred with the same fathers name

Thank you

There are these two births but in Wolverhampton registration district:-

Name: DARBY, Alfred
Registration District: Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6B
Page No: 472

and:-

Name: DARBY, Alfred
Registration District: Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6B
Page No: 474

Kath. x

???
Births Dec 1841

Burden Ann Elizabeth ... Dudley 18 315

Gwyn

1871 census:-

LESTER, Edward Head M 28 1843 Staffordshire
LESTER, Ann E Wife F 29 1842 Staffordshire
BURDEN, Alfred M 11 1860 Staffordshire
LESTER, John Son M 7 1864 Staffordshire
LESTER, Herbert Son M 3 1868 Staffordshire

Address:
Bath Street, Sedgley


RG number: RG10
Piece: 3004
Folio: 81
Page: 25

Kath. x

Thank you all.
I was looking for the marriage in Dudley. It just shows you shouldnt presume to look where you think it should be

That is my family in 1861. Can you find another Alfred Darbey/Darby born 1859/1860 Sedgley?to sort this out for us

Thank you

You should always remember to use 'phonetic surname search' on freebmd if having problems with finding records........

1861 census:-


BURDEN, William Head Widower M 50 1811 Labourer
Sedgley Staffordshire
BURDEN, John Son Unmarried M 23 1838 Refiner
Sedgley Staffordshire
BURDEN, Ann Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 20 1841 House Keeper Sedgley
Staffordshire <<<<<<<<<<<
BURDEN, Herbert Son M 14 1847 Labourer
Sedgley Staffordshire
BURDEN, Alfred Grandson M 0 (16M) 1861
Sedgley Staffordshire <<<<<<<<<<<<

Address:
Cinder Hill, Sedgley

RG number: RG09
Piece: 2046
Folio: 43
Page: 1


Kath. x