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chrissey
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23 Jun 2011 18:50 |
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Hi
Would someone have a look at the 1911 census for me for William Anderson , b 1875 and married to Jane, b 1883 and married in 1903 in the Sunderland area
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Chrissey
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patchem
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23 Jun 2011 18:56 |
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Do you know of any children? Thank-you
I am not finding William and Jane married 8 years, 1875 and 1883, anywhere.
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23 Jun 2011 18:58 |
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ANDERSON, William Head Married M 34 1877 Coal Miner Hewer Durham Felling V ANDERSON, Jane Wife F 34 1877 Durham Felling Married 4 years
RG number: RG14 Piece: 30139 Reference: RG14PN30139 RG78PN1739 RD554 SD2 ED22 SN12 Registration District: Chester Le Street Sub District: Harraton Enumeration District: 22 Parish: Washington Address: 12 Old Hall Buildings Washington Station S O Court Durham County: Durham
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chrissey
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23 Jun 2011 19:13 |
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Hi Patchem
I have their marriage certificate and their ages of 28 and 21 from that.
I don't know of any children except after 1911, but I would be suprised if there wern't any.
The match Ginny has found is not them, William was a shipyard labourer.
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Chrissey
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patchem
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23 Jun 2011 19:14 |
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This marriage?: Marriages Sep 1903 xxx ANDERSON William Sunderland 10a 1020 Dawson James Sunderland 10a 1020 Donkin Dorothy Sunderland 10a 1020 xxx Ellemore Jane Sunderland 10a 1020 McGraffin Martha Todd Sunderland 10a 1020
so this Jane?; 1901 England Census Jane Ellennre Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Mary Ellennre Gender: Female Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Sunderland County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: Sunderland ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 205 Piece: 4720 Folio: 135 Page Number: 31
Mary Ellennre 60 Ireland Jane Ellennre 16 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4720; Folio: 135; Page: 31.
Sorry, we cross-posted. Could she be giving wrong information about her age? Do you know when/where she died? Thanks
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MarieCeleste
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23 Jun 2011 19:15 |
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Hello Chrissey - what was Jane's maiden name? (sometimes going back helps us to go forward).
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MarieCeleste
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23 Jun 2011 19:18 |
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Even if just for elimination:
ANDERSON, William Head Married M 33 1878 Dock Labourer Durham Sunderland ANDERSON, Margaret Jane Wife Married 7 years F 32 1879 Durham Sunderland ANDERSON, Isabella Daughter F 6 1905 Durham Sunderland ANDERSON, James Son M 4 1907 Durham Sunderland ANDERSON, Lilian Daughter F 3 1908 Durham Sunderland ANDERSON, Georgeina Daughter F 1 1910 Durham Sunderland Registration District: Sunderland Sub District: Sunderland East Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Sunderland Address: 39 Norman Street Hendon Sunderland County: Durham
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chrissey
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23 Jun 2011 19:18 |
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Hi Patchem
That's the marriage.
Jane's mother was called Mary and both ages are about right
Regards
Chrissey :-)
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chrissey
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23 Jun 2011 19:20 |
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Hi Patchem
Maiden name was Ellemore
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chrissey
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23 Jun 2011 19:24 |
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Hi MarieCeleste
The names, William's job and length of marriage are right but their ages are different from the marraige cert by 3 years older and 4 years younger respectively.
Chrissey
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patchem
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23 Jun 2011 19:26 |
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What children did they have after 1911? And do you know when and where they(William and Jane)died?
Added: Presumably these: Births Sep 1913 Anderson Adelaide Ellemore Sunderland 10a 1503 Births Sep 1915 Anderson Frederick Ellemore Sunderland 10a 1395
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chrissey
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23 Jun 2011 19:34 |
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Hi Patchem
Adelaide Sept 1913 and Frederick Sept 1915
I donot know either death
Chrissey
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patchem
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23 Jun 2011 19:43 |
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Is it worth a gamble on this being a daughter? Births Sep 1910 ANDERSON Georgina Sunderland 10a 761
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MarieCeleste
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23 Jun 2011 19:45 |
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Patchem, that would be the lassie on the 1911 I posted above. The certificate may indeed be worth a bet.
I never take for gospel ages given on census or marriage certificates.
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MarieCeleste
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23 Jun 2011 19:49 |
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Diane, can you give us all of the info from the marriage certificate?
Father's names and occupations, address, witnesses.
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chrissey
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23 Jun 2011 19:55 |
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Hi Pathem
Georgina is possibly the same as family Ginny found.
Had a look at map and East Cross Street where they were living when married is less than a mile from Norman Street.
Will have to buy Georgina's birth cert and see if it is a match
Thanks very much one and all
Chrissey :-D ;-)
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chrissey
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23 Jun 2011 20:10 |
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Hi MarieCeleste
Fathers were William Anderson snr, boat builder and William Ellemore, Pilot (of ships), both deceased.
William Anderson jr was living at 20 East Cross Street, Jane at 22 East Cross Street.
Marriage was register office on 11/7/1903, witnesses were Maggie Findley and F. Anderson
Chrissey
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patchem
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23 Jun 2011 20:38 |
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1881 England Census William Elemore Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Elemore Gender: Male Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Sunderland County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: 16 Barrack St Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Pilot Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: East Sunderland ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 5001 Folio: 18 Page Number: 30
William Elemore 47 Mary Elemore 35 Sunderland William Elemore 15 Mary A. Elemore 14 Elizabeth Elemore 13 John Elemore 8 George Elemore
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5001; Folio: 18; Page: 30; GSU roll: 1342204.
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23 Jun 2011 20:43 |
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Wrongly transcribed in ancestry 1891 England Census Mary Elemore Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Mother Gender: Female Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns Town: Sunderland County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: Sunderland ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 4144 Folio: 77 Page Number: 26 7 warren street John Ellemore 18 boatman Jane Ellemore 8 scholar Mary Elemore 50 living on own means widow Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4144; Folio 77; Page 26; GSU roll: 6099254.
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23 Jun 2011 20:49 |
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But not helping us for 1911: 1871 England Census William Ellmer Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ellmer Gender: Male Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Town: Sunderland County/Island: Durham Country: England Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: East Sunderland ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 81 Piece: 5015 Folio: 46 Page Number: 16 16 Barrack Street
William Ellmer 34 Pilot Mary Ellmer 26 Scotland William Ellmer 5 Mary H Ellmer 4 Elizabeth Ellmer 2 Rose A Ellmer 1
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5015; Folio: 46; Page: 16; GSU roll: 847383.
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