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ann

ann Report 18 May 2011 12:58

Hello All,
Can anyone help me who knows the workings of the Military during the WW1. I am researching James Rush from Liverpool who was killed in France,Flander in 1917. I have his details and his number is down as 85401, machine gun corp.
I am now trying to find out when he enlisted. There is a James Rush b1884 enlisted 1915 but his number is 20784. Could these two be the same person. I've not had to search military records befor.
Regards.
Ann

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 May 2011 13:02

Do you have access to Ancestry ?

Medal Card
Name: James Rush
Regiment or Corps: Machine Gun Corps
Regimental Number: 85401

Researching:
PLEASE DO NOT: send me information concerning your thread on the board as it should be posted on your request where all members can see it. PLEASE DO NOT: ask me for help with lookups as they should be placed on the boards to get the best possible result. PLEASE DO NOT: open your tree just because I have posted information on your thread as I will not be related. THANK YOU. Researching Carter, Cass and Walker in England. Researching Caven, McKill, Sutherland and Will in Scotland.

Flick

Flick Report 18 May 2011 13:03

Around 70% of WW1 Records were destroyed as a result of enemy action during WW2.

So you may never find the records you seek..........

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 18 May 2011 13:05

Service Record

Name: James Rush
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age at enlistment: 31
Residence: 36 Bulwer ??, Liverpool ??
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 20784
Number of images: 41


Any idea of next of kin

Researching:
PLEASE DO NOT: send me information concerning your thread on the board as it should be posted on your request where all members can see it. PLEASE DO NOT: ask me for help with lookups as they should be placed on the boards to get the best possible result. PLEASE DO NOT: open your tree just because I have posted information on your thread as I will not be related. THANK YOU. Researching Carter, Cass and Walker in England. Researching Caven, McKill, Sutherland and Will in Scotland.

Gai

Gai Report 18 May 2011 13:05

This is your James.

Name: James Rush
Birth Place: Liverpool
Death Date: 25 Sep 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Liverpool
Rank: Private
Regiment: Machine Gun Corps
Battalion: (Infantry)
Number: 85401
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Will have a look for any more records

Gai

Researching:
Moreman's of Mangotsfield, Matchett's of Ireland & Essex, Craddock's of Scotland & Manchester

Flick

Flick Report 18 May 2011 13:06

Mmmmm ..............age unknown

RUSH
Initials: J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
Unit Text: 100th Coy.
Date of Death: 25/09/1917
Service No: 85401
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 154 to 159 and 163A.
Memorial: TYNE COT MEMORIAL

Ancestry version....showing where he enlisted

Name: James Rush
Birth Place: Liverpool
Death Date: 25 Sep 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Liverpool
Rank: Private
Regiment: Machine Gun Corps
Battalion: (Infantry)
Number: 85401
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

ann

ann Report 18 May 2011 13:06

Hi Glitter baby,
Yes I do but can't work out if these 2 James are the same.
Ann

ann

ann Report 18 May 2011 13:10

Hi everyone,
that definitley him,
Thankyou Ann

Flick

Flick Report 18 May 2011 13:18

If this man is related to you, you must know when he was born.................does the birth year of c1884 for tally?

Flick

Flick Report 18 May 2011 13:21

There are notes on the records for 20784 dated 1922....................rules him out, I would say

He married in 1913 at All Saints L'pool to Mary Catherine McP(F)arlane 3.12.1913, and they had a daughter in 1915 (first name poss Mary....2nd name def Winifred

ann

ann Report 18 May 2011 13:24

Hi Flick,
Thanks for that, then these 2 people are not the same but he was born c1884,
His is the g grandfather of a cousin and not much is known of him.
Regards,
Ann.

Flick

Flick Report 18 May 2011 13:27

On second thoughs.....reading further..............perserverance pays of!!

He must have transferred.......the next page has his number as 85401, with same NOK details, and it's a letter about sending the 'deceased's' medals to his NOK

As there are 41 pages for this man, you may wish to consider taking out Ancestry's free trial for 14 days, so that you can download the images.

There's even one of the widow's signature..............

Also reference to TWO children on the Pension grant page (22/11 per week)

ann

ann Report 18 May 2011 13:31

Flick,
You are wonderful.
Ann

Flick

Flick Report 18 May 2011 13:35

His civvy occ was Mill Labourer

He was 5'4" tall

Flick

Flick Report 18 May 2011 13:37

The second chlid was Catherine Josephine, born Jan 1917

ann

ann Report 18 May 2011 13:40

Hi Flick,
Must read his history, wasn't he short.
Ann

Flick

Flick Report 18 May 2011 13:46

No, not really....................short, I mean. The average height of males in that era was much less than it is nowadays........