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I have a John Moses married to Georgina Carson 1913 Congleton
I'm hoping they can be found on the 1911 to give me more info as to where they were born, parents etc

Thank you

1911 census
Address: 40 Brunswick Street Congleton

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

CARSON, Ellen Head Widow F 68 1843 At Home Newcastle Staffs
CARSON, Georgina Matilda Daughter Single F 21 1890 Cotton Towel Weaver Congleton Cheshire
CARSON, Leslie Brickwood Grandson Single M 17 1894 Congleton Cheshire

1911

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MOSES, Mathew Head Married M 58 1853 Waggar Builder Cheshire Haslington VIEW
MOSES, John Son Single M 20 1891 Apprentice Printer Cheshire Chester VIEW
MOSES, Louise Daughter Single F 18 1893 Cheshire Chester VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21861 Reference:
RG14PN21861 RG78PN1302 RD450 SD2 ED11 SN406

Registration District:
Chester Sub District:
Chester Castle Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Chester

Address:
41 Overleigh Road Handbridge Chester County:
Cheshire



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Regards Vera

There are various John Moses in Cheshire in 1911.
You need the marriage certificate for Fathers' names etc to verify any.

1901 census - household transcription
Person: CARSON, Georgina
Address: 40, Brunswick Street, Congleton

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

CARSON, Ellen Head Widow F 58 1843 Newcastle Staffordshire
CARSON, Georgina Daughter Single F 10 1891 Congleton Cheshire
CARSON, Charlie Son M 7 1894 Congleton Cheshire
ROWLEY, Johuh Son-In-Law Married M 24 1877 Railway Carriage Cleaner Congleton Cheshire
ROWLEY, Florence Daughter Married F 22 1879 Newcastle Staffordshire
ROWLEY, Evelyn Grand Daughter F 0 (5 MOS) 1901 Congleton Cheshire

Is it possible that John was previously married? There is this one in Congleton in 1911 but married to someone else at the time (you need the marriage certificate to Georgina to get his father's name):-


MOSES, John Head Married
1 years M 23 1888 Cattle Salesman Stafford Biddulph
MOSES, Beatrice Wife Married F 24 1887 Cheshire Congleton
MOSES, Ethel Daughter F 1 1910 Cheshire Buglawton

Address
Buglawton Congleton

Reference
RG14PN21721 RG78PN1295 RD448 SD2 ED1 SN65

Kath. x

1891 census
Address: 7, Chapel Street, Congleton

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

CARSON, Ellen Head Widow F 49 1842 Charwoman Newcastle Staffordshire
CARSON, Mary E Daughter Single F 15 1876 Fustian Cutter Newcastle Staffordshire
CARSON, Robert Son M 10 1881 Scholar Newcastle Staffordshire
CARSON, Georgina Daughter F 0 (9M) 1891 Congleton Cheshire

1881 census
Address: 15, Silverdale Rd, Newcastle Under Lyme

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

CARSON, Copeland Head Married M 44 1837 Flat Presser (Earthenware)
Ireland
CARSON, Ellen Wife Married F 36 1845 Newcastle Staffordshire
CARSON, Matilda Daughter Single F 15 1866 Handler Earthenware Stoke Staffordshire
CARSON, Hannah Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Newcastle Staffordshire
CARSON, Mary Ellen Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar Newcastle Staffordshire
CARSON, Florence A Daughter Single F 2 1879 Scholar Stoke Staffordshire
CARSON, Robt Jas Son Single M 0 1881 Newcastle Staffordshire

1871 census
Address: Pool Street, Newcastle Under Lyme

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

URION, Hannah Head F 63 1808 Staffordshire
CARSON, Copeland Son-In-Law M 33 1838 Ireland
CARSON, Ellen Daughter F 27 1844 Staffordshire
CARSON, Matilda Granddaughter F 5 1866 Staffordshire

Thank you for your help

yes I think the marriage certificate would tell me more,

it all seems to fit as John & Georgins'a children were born in Congleton

I don't supose theirs a Joseph Moses living in Congleton 1911? as their was a bit of confusion as to his name John/Joseph

if it's the correct family, it looks like the pregnancy was a long one ahem

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Copeland Carson Name: Copeland Carson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1884
Age at Death: 45
Registration district: Newcastle Under Lyme
Registration County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 50

administration details re his probate

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
about Copeland Carson Name: Copeland Carson
Probate Date: 19 Feb 1884
Death Date: 11 Jan 1884
Death Place: Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Registry: Lichfield

left £55 16s to Ellen

Thank you Tempest, Are you on ancestry as you can get the probate records?

you're welcome dizzy, yes I have ancestry re the probate records

cannot see a Joseph Moses in Congleton in 1911

This is the only Joseph Moses I can find and it is not Congleton...


1911

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MOSES, Ellen Head Widow F 49 1862 Housekeeper Manchester England VIEW
MOSES, William Charles Son Single M 23 1888 Printers Cutter Longsight Manchester VIEW
MOSES, Joseph Henry Son Single M 21 1890 Ironfounders Labourer Longsight Manchester VIEW
MOSES, Albert Edward Son Single M 18 1893 Cotton Piecer Longsight Manchester VIEW
MOSES, George Son Single M 16 1895 Cotton Operative Levenshulme Manchester VIEW
MOSES, Frank Son M 8 1903 Reddish Stockport VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21415 Reference:
RG14PN21415 RG78PN1273 RD443 SD6 ED14 SN95

Registration District:
Stockport Sub District:
Stockport Third Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Reddish

Address:
36 Lichfield Street Reddish County:
Cheshire


REgards Vera

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: Georgina M Carson
Spouse Surname: Moses
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1913
Registration district: Congleton
Registration county (inferred): Cheshire
Volume Number: 8a
Page Number: 605

same page is

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Name: John Moses
Spouse Surname: Carson
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1913
Registration district: Congleton
Registration county (inferred): Cheshire

why do you think his name could have been Joseph please?

I'm doing this for a friend and she thought his name was Joseph,
but she said they came from Congleton and as John & Georgina were the only ones that came up and all the info on them fits we've gone with them but just settle it I thought if their was a Joseph.
All the info I've got to day makes me think she had her info wrongand got her grand dad and gr grandad mixed up thinking they were both Joseph
I have found a birth for John Moses 31 july 1890 St Mary Chester Cheshire father Matthew mother Elizabeth, which I think is a possibilty can I be checky and ask if Matthew & Elizabeth are on the 1911 census

I think this could be the Matthew you mean (Elizabeth doesn't seem to be at home although Matthew is married):-


MOSES, Mathew Head Married M 58 1853 Waggar Builder Cheshire Haslington
MOSES, John Son Single M 20 1891 Apprentice Printer Cheshire Chester
MOSES, Louise Daughter Single F 18 1893 Cheshire Chester


Address
41 Overleigh Road Handbridge Chester

Reference
RG14PN21861 RG78PN1302 RD450 SD2 ED11 SN406

I think you definitely need John and Georgina's marriage certificate for John's father's name.

Kath. x

and on 1901 census

Address: 1, Handbridge Hugh Street, Chester

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

MOSES, Matthew Head Married M 49 1852 Waggon Builder Haslington Cheshire
MOSES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 45 1856 Stoke on Trent Staffordshire
MOSES, Jane Daughter Single F 22 1879 Manchester Lancashire
MOSES, George Son Single M 19 1882 Apprentice Compositor Chester Cheshire
MOSES, Andrew Son Single M 17 1884 Apprentice Smith Chester Cheshire
MOSES, Elizabeth Emily Daughter Single F 15 1886 Chester Cheshire
MOSES, Edith Daughter Single F 13 1888 Chester Cheshire
MOSES, John Son Single M 10 1891 Chester Cheshire
MOSES, Louie Son Single M 8 1893 Chester Cheshire

Thank you for that sorry for the delay went for a coffee

It does look as though it could be the right family
couldn't they make their mind up with Louise/louie?

Thanks again

sylvia

That is the one I found at the beginning...

1911

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MOSES, Mathew Head Married M 58 1853 Waggar Builder Cheshire Haslington VIEW
MOSES, John Son Single M 20 1891 Apprentice Printer Cheshire Chester VIEW
MOSES, Louise Daughter Single F 18 1893 Cheshire Chester VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21861 Reference:
RG14PN21861 RG78PN1302 RD450 SD2 ED11 SN406

Registration District:
Chester Sub District:
Chester Castle Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Chester

Address:
41 Overleigh Road Handbridge Chester County:
Cheshire

Regards Vera