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jerseylily
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18 May 2011 15:55 |
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Just to be absolutely sure I'll have a look for Philip E Poingdestre birth next time to check that his middle name was Ernest.
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Chickenman51
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18 May 2011 14:21 |
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Jersey thank you so much for your detective work ...... Your help and detailed info sure sets me on a good course for this branch ..... many many thanks <3
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jerseylily
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18 May 2011 13:47 |
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Hello David
I went through the birth indexes looking for your Olive Rose born c1903 and the only one that came anywhere close was the birth of a Rosaline Olive, as found above.
A look at the birth certificate her revealed that she was born on 31/10/1902 at 42, Aquila Rd, St Helier. Her parents were Ernest Poingdestre, a Driver, and Rose Miller. The birth was notified by an Annie Perchard.
This threw me a bit as by looking at earlier censuses I could see that Philip and Henrietta did not have a son called Ernest. However they did have one, born 1880, entered as Philip E, perhaps he was known by his middle name to avoid confusion with his father!
I then found the marriage of Ernest P and Rose Millar, which took place at the St Helier Town Church, 15/7/1902. He was 22 and his occupation was Driver. His father was Philip, also a Driver. This fits with the 1901 where both are described as Carters. To clinch that this is the right family one of the witnesses was L.M. Poingdestre who would be Lilian Maud, Ernest's sister on the 1901.
Rose Miller was also 22 on her marriage certificate, she was born in the parish of St Ouen and her father was John, a Labourer.
Hope this helps
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Chickenman51
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11 May 2011 07:37 |
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Thanks Jerseylily ... look forward to that
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jerseylily
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7 May 2011 09:17 |
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David
I can look at the certificate and copy out all the details without parting with a penny, it's only £20 if you want a copy of it.
I'm working at the Archive most weeks anyway so it's not a problem. I'll get back to you later next week.
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Chickenman51
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7 May 2011 07:16 |
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Guys thanks given me a lot to work with ... jerseyfly no way spend that kind of money ...... Grandparents seems to have taken on the role and yes her marriage was to my wife's grate uncle hence the interest ..
Sorry that I can not resipricate help mostly housebound these days ,,, but you guys rock thanks again
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jerseylily
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6 May 2011 23:54 |
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Another way to find her parents would be to give me until next week to go and have a look at her birth certificate.
No charge for looking over here but £20 to buy the certificate!
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AnnCardiff
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6 May 2011 22:42 |
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PHILIP FREDERICK POINGDESTRE Pedigree Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JEAN POINGDESTRE Family Mother: ETHER MALLET -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: SOPHIE JANE POINGDESTRE Family Marriage: 06 APR 1871 Grouville, Jersey, Channel Islands
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AnnCardiff
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6 May 2011 22:40 |
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Philip Poingdestre England and Wales Census, 1901 birth 1856 —St Heliers, Jersey residence 31 Mar 1901 —St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands census 31 Mar 1901 —St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands record title: England and Wales Census, 1901 name: Philip Poingdestre event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 age: 45 relationship to head of household: Head birthplace: St Heliers, Jersey record type: Household registration district: Jersey ecclesiastical parish: St James civil parish: St Helier county: Jersey, St Helier, Jersey
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AnnCardiff
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6 May 2011 22:38 |
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Olive Poingdestre England and Wales Census, 1901 birth 1885 —St Helier, Jersey residence 31 Mar 1901 —St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands census 31 Mar 1901 —St Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands record title: England and Wales Census, 1901 name: Olive Poingdestre event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 age: 16 relationship to head of household: Daughter birthplace: St Helier, Jersey record type: Household registration district: Jersey sub-district: Jersey - St Helier ecclesiastical parish: All Saints civil parish: St Helier county: Jersey, Jersey - St Helier, St Helier, Jersey
Olive Poingdestre England and Wales Census, 1891 birth St Heliers, Jersey residence 1891 —Channel Islands census 1891 —Channel Islands record title: England and Wales Census, 1891 name: Olive Poingdestre event: Census event date: 1891 gender: Female age: 6 relationship to head of household: Daughter birthplace: St Heliers, Jersey record type: Household registration district: Jersey sub-district: D ecclesiastical parish: All Saints civil parish: St Helier county:
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**Ann**
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6 May 2011 22:30 |
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16/11/1902 Poingdestre Rosaline Olive (father) Ernest (mother) Rose Miller (Father Annie Perchard )
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Father..................was godfather Annie Perchard was godmother
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6 May 2011 22:26 |
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1891.........
Name: Henry C Paingdestre [Henry G Poingdestre] Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 [Abt 1882] Relation: Son Father's name: Philip Paingdestre Mother's name: Henrietta Paingdestre Gender: Male Where born: St. Helier, Jersey, Channel Islands Civil parish: St Helier Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: St Heliers County/Island: Jersey Country: Channel Islands Registration district: Jersey Sub-registration district: C ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Piece: 4695 Folio: 88 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Philip Paingdestre 35 Henrietta Paingdestre 36 Philip E Paingdestre 11 Henry C Paingdestre 19 Lillian M Paingdestre 7 Emily B Paingdestre 5 My money would be on Lilian for the child's mother..........
I don't think CI bmd's are on line..............
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6 May 2011 22:19 |
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Name: Henrietta Poingdentre [Henrietta Poingdestre] Age in 1901: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Spouse's Name: Philip Poingdentre Gender: Female Where born: St Heliers, Jersey, Channel Islands Civil parish: St Helier Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: St Helier County/Island: Jersey Country: Channel Islands Registration district: Jersey Sub-registration district: Jersey ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 36 Piece: 5312 Folio: 162 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Philip Poingdentre 45 Henrietta Poingdentre 46 Philip E Poingdentre 21 Henry G Poingdentre 19 Lilian M Poingdentre 17 Emily B Poingdentre 15
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6 May 2011 22:17 |
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Is this her marriage??
POINGDESTRE, Olive R Registration District: Help Falmouth County: Cornwall Year of Registration: 1927 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Medlin Volume No: Help 5C Page No: Help 313 Name: MEDLIN, Thomas R J Registration District: Falmouth County: Cornwall Year of Registration: 1927 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Poingdestre Volume No: 5C Page No: 313
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Flick
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6 May 2011 22:15 |
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For INFO only
Person: POINGDESTRE, Olive Rose Address: 2 Roseville St St Helier Jersey POINGDESTRE, Philip Head Married M 55 1856 Driver Jersey St Helier VIEW POINGDESTRE, Henrietta Wife Married 33 years F 57 1854 Jersey St Helier VIEW POINGDESTRE, Olive Rose Granddaughter F 8 1903 Jersey St Helier VIEW
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TootyFruity
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6 May 2011 22:15 |
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As she was born between census the only way to find out for certain would be to buy her birth certificate
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Flick
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6 May 2011 22:14 |
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Have you looked at 1901, to see who MAY be her parent?
Do the grandparents have the same surname as the child?
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Chickenman51
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6 May 2011 22:11 |
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Born around 1903 in Jersey 1911 Has her living with grandparents Has anyone got ideas on who her parents were ?
Think safe to say Jersey may have her info but I have limited computer acess thanks for anyone who can help
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