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Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 10:10

Hi
Re. John Cotterill dob November 1914
Can anyone help please, I am searching for my Husband's grandparents,I believe they came from Tipperary in 1916, my father in law was then two years old, I am told he had a sister, possibly named Hester but not sure
My father in law married and settled in Burnley Lancashire.
Any info anyone can give would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
Susan

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 10:17

Hi,

is this your father in laws death;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about John James Cotterill
Name: John James Cotterill
Birth Date: 25 Nov 1914
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1996
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Burnley and Pendle
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: A15C
District and Subdistrict: 5822A
Entry number: 204


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 10:20

When your father in law married he would have stated his fathers name and occupation on his marriage certificate........ this should be your next step. Then hopefully we maybe able to find something??

Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 10:22

Hi Dee
Many thanks for that info, have you any way of checking for his parents and siblings presumably born in Ireland.
Regards
Susan

Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 10:26

HI BatMansDaughter
Many thanks, I wil order his marriage certificate, luckily I do know the date of his marriage.
Regards
Susan

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 10:27

Hi Susan,

I was hoping to pick up a birth registration for him on Family Search, unfortunately I couldn't see one.

May I ask who your father in law married, I'm hoping I may pick up some Cotterills in the same area and be able to work from them??

Dee x

Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 10:42

HiBatMansDaughter
My father in law married a Minnie Ward in Burnley Lancashire, we are in contact with all the family living in Burnley at the moment, all birth/marriage certificates etc. have gone missing and unfortunately all the older family members that may have had information are now longer with us, the problem seems to be my husbands grandparents were born in Ireland, trying to find their births and marriages etc.
Regards
Susan

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 10:46

Hi Susan,

I presume you have no names for your Husbands Grandparents? If so the marriage certificate would be the only way forward.

Can your hubby remember any cousins from this side of the Cotterill family?

Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 10:49

This seems to be the only other marriage in that area around that time;

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1933 (>99%)
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Cotterill Florence M Credland Burnley 8e 311
Credland Charles S Cotterill Burnley 8e 311

Now looking around I think Florences middle name was Mabel..... I have possibly found her death but no birth??

Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 10:57

HI BatMansDaughter
No idea for grandparents names, guessing his his grandfather may have been named John as the name seems to have been carried through the family, only option is to order the marriage certificate.
Many thanks for all your help
Regards
Susan

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 11:00

Oh........ just found this;

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Esther Cotterall
Name: Esther Cotterall
Spouse Surname: Solessi
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1931
Registration district: Burnley
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 614
Find Spouse: Angelo Solessi


So she was born in 1911;

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Esther Solessi
Name: Esther Solessi
Death Registration Month/Year: 1955
Age at death (estimated): 44
Registration district: Burnley
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10b
Page: 594

Could this be your F I Laws sister??




Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 11:08

Hi BatMansDaughter
My father in laws marriage was in 1940 8e 510
so should be able hopefully to pick up details from his marriage certificate
Many thanks
Regards
Susan

Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 11:20

Hi BatMansDaughter
Yes that is my father in Laws sister, I now remember the surname that I was told many years ago long before we started researching family trees.
Brilliant, that is one more link in the chain.
Ever greatful, regards
Susan

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 1 May 2011 11:28

Hi Susan,

I found this;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1911 (>99%)
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Cotterall Esther Burnley 8e 137



BUT.. I then found this;
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
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COTTERALL John J Kenyon Burnley 8e 278



There is a marriage in Blackburn for George Cotterall to Sarah Kenyon before 1900........ and just thinking out aloud.... could your F I Laws birth year been out by 1 year??? It happens.

Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 11:28

Hi BatMansDaughter
Yes that is my father in Laws sister, I now remember the surname that I was told many years ago long before we started researching family trees.
Brilliant, that is one more link in the chain.
Ever greatful, regards
Susan

Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 11:50

HI BatMansDaughter
My father in laws birth could be +/- a couple of years, he definitely married Minnie Ward in Burnley in 1940.
Interesting Esthers surname spelling is slightly different from the others, may be route worth looking into, my husband remembers his parents going to a funeral when he was in his early teens, looks like it was Esthers.
My husband has no recollection of cousins from his fathers side of the family, he also has never heard of a Charles Cotterill.
Regards
Susan

Susan

Susan Report 1 May 2011 12:32

Hi BatMansDaughter
Many thanks for all your help, now certain George Cotterall and Sarah Kenyon were my husbands grandparents, found father in laws birth with the same surname spelling, now puzzled on two points how Ireland came into the mix and how the surname changed from Cotterall to Cotterill, very strange.
Anyway thanks to you hopefully we can now continue the family line back.
Once again very many thanks
Regards
Susan