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Ive never used this before so bare with me please. Im looking for the full birth details of Nellie Geeney born 1911 and died 2001. It`s her father`s name that Im interested in, all I know is the surname but no christian name or birth details. Her mother`s name was Leah Ladds born 1884. Any help to where I could look and even buy on line please and if Im using the wrong board please could someone let me know lol.

Thanks.

I thought it would be easy, just look on FreeBMD to see who Leah Ladds married but i see she didn't marry until 1917 and married Charles T. Betts. So was she previously married or is Ladds her maiden name?

Marriages Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Betts Charles T Ladds Aston 6d 584
Ladds Leah Betts Aston 6d 584

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

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Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
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GEENEY Nellie Ladds Birmingham 6d 182


Regards Vera

Curious! It shows surname Geeney and mother's maiden name Ladds.

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
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GEENEY Nellie Ladds Birmingham 6d 182

But why did she marry in 1917 using surname Ladds if she was previously married?

There doesn't seem to be a marriage between a Geeney and a Ladds.

Name: LADDS, Leah
Registration District: Aston
County: Warwickshire
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 6D
Page No: 396


1901 census
LADDS, Elizabeth Head Widow F 57 1844
Holme
Norfolk VIEW
BUCKLEY, Thomas Son Single M 28 1873 Brass Turner
Aston Manor VIEW
BUCKLEY, Ernest Son Single M 26 1875 Cycle Worker
Aston Manor VIEW
LADDS, Silas Son Single M 19 1882 Iron & Steel Turner
Aston Manor VIEW
LADDS, Leah Daughter F 16 1885 Press Button Worker
Aston Manor VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
2884 Folio:
48 Page:
35

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Aston Manor Enumeration District:
23 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Lozells St Paul's

Civil Parish:
Aston Manor Municipal Borough:
Address:
26, Inkerman Street, Aston Manor County:
Warwickshire

I think you're going to have to buy Nellie's birth certificate to get father's name.

Thank you Margee and Vera, yes she was married before to Geeney who we think died in the war and then to Charles Betts. Her mom being Leah Ladds and Ladds is her maiden name. That`s why i cant find anything about his Christen name and where to go from there.

for reference

1891
LADDS, Elizabeth Head Married F 46 1845
Holme
Norfolk VIEW
BUCKLEY, Frederick Son Single M 27 1864 Engine Fitter
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
MOORE, Emma Daughter Married F 24 1867 Dairy Maid
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
BUCKLEY, Thomas Son Married M 22 1869 Brass Founder
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
LADDS, Nelly Daughter Single F 18 1873 Button Smasher
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
BUCKLEY, Ernest Son Single M 17 1874 Bicycle Finisher
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
BUCKLEY, Louie Daughter F 14 1877 Assistant Dairy Maid
Birmingham
Warwickshire VIEW
LADDS, Silas Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Aston
Warwickshire VIEW
LADDS, Leah Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Aston
Warwickshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
2431 Folio:
49 Page:
10

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Aston Manor Enumeration District:
22 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Paul

Civil Parish:
Aston Municipal Borough:
Address:
26, Inkerman Street, Aston, Aston Manor County:
Warwickshire



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Regards Vera

I can't see a death of a Geeney in WW1 on the Commonwealth War Graves site.

I dont know why she married again with her maiden name and I suppose I never will.
Thanks for all the information that was quick, well done all.

Regards
Teresa.

I was told he came from Ireland and died in the war and that`s all I know xx

Hi,
I think the way to go as the others have said...to get the birth certificate.

Regards Vera

Thank you Vera and everybody who helped xx

The 1901 census has a William & Sarah GEENEY in Blackburn, Lancs with 3 young children. William (34) was born in Ireland. Sarah was 39.

The only other GEENEY is a Fakilsab Adbul GEENEY, 27, born East India and living in Durham.

1911 Wm & Sarah are still in Blackburn, Lancs. It appears they died in 1927 & 1934 respectively.

If the mother married Betts as LADDS.....it's unlikely in the extreme that she was married to Nellie's father.

As the child was registered as Geeney, the father's details will be on the birth cert.

His 'death' is quite possibly a fabrication.

Have you traced Leah on 1911 census?

I can't see a Leah Ladds on the 1911 census. There's a Leah Gennoy b.1884 Birmingham - wife of Thomas Gennoy b.1882 Birmingham.

He's a machet grinder and she's a pressworker.

No children. Under "completed years of marriage" it says "none". Can't see any marriage registration for them though.

Clearly, this name isn't Geeney, it's just the closest I can see.

If you're going to order Nellie's birth certificate - use GRO.gov.uk It's the cheapest place to use, at £9.25