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1841 Census: Anne Jones B. 1811

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Sue

Sue Report 21 Apr 2011 12:22

Could some please check 1841 Census for Gt Boughton to see which Anne Jones (there are two in that area) is married to Charles Jones?

Charles was born around 1817 in that area I think.

Thanks

Sue

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Apr 2011 12:34

Gt Boughton is where ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Apr 2011 12:36

1841 so not this one

Name: Ann Jones
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Farndon
Hundred: Broxton (Higher Division)
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Tattenhall
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 89
Book: 11
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
John Jones 35
Ann Jones 32
Edward Jones 12
John Jones 10
Sarah Jones 8
Thomas Jones 6
William Jones 4
Hugh Jones 1

Adeline

Adeline Report 21 Apr 2011 12:36

Not one of those born 1811 and living in Cheshire appears to be married to a Charles Jones.

Charles Jones b 1816 and in the Gt Boughton area is married to a Mary Jones.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Apr 2011 12:39

1841 but wrong nameofwife

Name: Charles William Jones
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Farndon
Hundred: Broxton (Higher Division)
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Tattenhall
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 89
Book: 11
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Charles William Jones 24
Harriette Jones 20
Harriette Henry Jones 3
Isabella Westin 2

Sue

Sue Report 21 Apr 2011 19:22

Thanks everyone - I haven't yet found a marriage but it must have been around 1841, so perhaps Anne was still unmarried and registered under her maiden name Williams when the census was entered? So it is all a bit of a mystery. I believe she was born in Ruabon Denbighshire if you can trace her please.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Apr 2011 19:47

Are you sure she wasn't Mary Williams?

Marriages Jun 1841 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BRADSHAW John Wrexham 27 378
DAVIES Mary Wrexham 27 378
EVANS Jane Wrexham 27 378
Griffiths Jane Wrexham 27 378
HUGHES Robert Wrexham 27 378
JONES Charles Wrexham 27 378
JONES Francis Wrexham 27 378
WILLIAMS Mary Wrexham 27 378

Sue

Sue Report 22 Apr 2011 12:04

Thanks again. All I have to go on is Charles and Anne's youngest daughter Jessie's birth certificate where the mother's name was formerly Williams. This is the only birth cert I have so far as the older siblings names were more common and difficult to confirm. I think that perhaps I need to look for a marriagea year or two before 1841 for an Anne Williams or Jones marrying Charles as the oldest child Emma would have been born around 1839/40.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 Apr 2011 23:02

let's go back a step


for OUR help

is this your family in 1851?

1851 Census

Name: Anne Jones
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Jones
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales

Civil parish: Chester St Oswald
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
Household Members:

Charles Jones 34 b.ca 1817, Ruabon, Denbighshire, Carpenter
Anne Jones 40
Emma Jones 11 b.ca 1840, Ruabon
Thomas Jones 10 b.ca 1841, Liverpool, Lancashire <<<<<<<
Sarah Jones 9 b.ca 1842, Liverpool <<<<<<
Eliza Jones 6 b.ca 1845, Birkenhead, Cheshire
Jessey Jones 3 b.ca 1848, Cheshire, Son

Address:- Bowes Court, St Werburgh Street



so they were in LIVERPOOL around 1941, not in Cheshire!




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 Apr 2011 23:15

and this looks like them



easy when you look in the right area!!!



1841 Census

Name: Charles Jones
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Gender: Male
Where born: Wales

Civil parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant

Charles Jones 26 Joiner
Ann Jones 30 b.ca 1811, no place of birth given (not born in county)
Emma Jones 2 b.ca 1839, not born in county
Thomas Jones 1 b.ca 1840, Lancashire

Address:- Redish (? Radish) Court, Pembroke Place (looks like a tenement, lots of families living there)





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 Apr 2011 23:16

It looks as though their marriage was in Wales, as Emma was apparently born in Ruabon, which is also given on the 1851 Census as being both Ann and Charles birth place.




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 Apr 2011 23:21

????????????????????


from the new beta.familysearch site


www.familysearch.org/


is this possible??????????????


record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: Charles Jones
bride's name: Ann Williams
marriage date: 04 Jul 1838
marriage place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: Joseph Jones
bride's father's name: John Williams
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M00710-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656506




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 Apr 2011 23:35

from same site

???????????????
possible baptisms


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Thomas Jones
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 16 Feb 1844
baptism/christening place: St. Peters, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
birth date: 07 Nov 1840
father's name: Charles Jones
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01314-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656424


name: Sarah Sophia Jones
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 16 Feb 1844
baptism/christening place: St. Peters, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
birth date: 06 Dec 1842
father's name: Charles Jones
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01314-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656424




possibly another child?????????????


record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

name: Ann June Jones
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 13 Dec 1841
baptism/christening place: St. Peters, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
father's name: Charles Jones
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01411-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656424






sylvia

Sue

Sue Report 23 Apr 2011 18:24

Sylvia - you're a star. That's certainly them in 1851 and the other info also fits. Thanks again

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Apr 2011 04:09

You're very welcome



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Apr 2011 04:17

Su


This is the information as it is shown on the Liverpool Records, newly posted on ancestry


Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Charles Jones
Birth Year:
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 4 Jul 1838
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Spouse's Name: Ann Williams
Father's name: Joseph Jones
Spouse Father's Name: John Williams

from image

Charles:-
Bachelor
Joiner
Address:- Vernon Street
Father Occupation:- Joiner

Ann:-
Spinster
No occupation shown
Address:- Dale Street
Father Occupation:- Coach Man

Witnesses:- Thomas Wright and Harriet Wright (her mark)




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 24 Apr 2011 04:34

and the baptisms


Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Thomas Jones
Birth Date: 7 Nov 1840
Baptism Date: 16 Feb 1844
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's name: Charles Jones
Mother's name: Ann Jones

from image:-

Address:- Birkenhead, Cheshire
Father occupation:- Joiner


Name: Sarah Sophia Jones
Birth Date: 6 Nov 1842
Baptism Date: 16 Feb 1844
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's name: Charles Jones
Mother's name: Ann Jones

details as for Thomas



This is the "possible" child ..... actually called Ann Jane


Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Ann Jane Jones
Birth Date: abt 1841
Baptism Date: 13 Dec 1841
Parish: Liverpool St Peter
Father's name: Charles Jones
Mother's name: Ann Jones

......................... she is NOT yours. Parents are Charles and Ann, but father is an OPTICIAN, and they live in St John's Village




sylvia