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I have all the information on Thomas 1829 married to Mary Elizabeth Ford. I know Thomas's Father was Thomas born around the 1800s but cannot find anything on him or his wife or from whence they came.I thought it might have been Herts but no tie up there. There is a Thomas born 1803 Plymouth,Devon but cant find anything to link the father to son. I dont think that the name Gentle has anything to do with the name Gundle, Gundell, Gundall or whatever. Would appreciate any help.

I did find this one earlier but I cannot sort out why the fathers name should be William so it probably does not connect but I will post it as I am going to bed now and maybe someone else can discount it !!

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Edward George Ford Name: Edward George Ford
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1854
Baptism Date: 4 Jun 1854
Father's name: William Ford
Mother's name: Mary Elizabeth Ford
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington

Also, I cannot find a Mary Elizabeth Ford with a father Richard before her marriage to Thomas Gundle.

Nite nite all,

Dea x

Well, he's not with them in 1861, and I can't find him elsewhere. He's always born Islington but he's not in reg'n index, either under Gundle/variants or Ford.

Unfortunately we don't know if he's Thomas's before marriage or Mary's.





Are you saying this is her?

1851 England Census
Name: Mary Ford
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Lodger
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Waddesdon
Civil parish: Buckingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Bourton Hold
Town: Buckingham
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: Red Lion Row

Occupation: Farmer's daughter

Condition as to marriage: unmarried

Registration district: Buckingham
Sub-registration district: Leckhampstead
Piece: 1724
Folio: 269
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
James Baker 26
Eliza Baker 28
Elizabeth Baker 2
Mary Ford 20

Thomas Gundrill married Mary Elizabeth Ford born Waddeston,Bucks.She died 1901 in Shoreditch. On Thomas's marriage cert it gives his father as Thomas. This is the one I would like to have information on. As you can see Gundle becomes all different spellings and names.

Did you get his father's name from his marriage cert?


Ozi

1871 England Census
Name: Edway Gundrill
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Gundrill
Mother's name: Mary E Gundrill
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England
Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town
Piece: 455
Folio: 51
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gundrill 39 - labourer; Wesson
Mary E Gundrill 41 - dressmaker; Aylesbury
Edway Gundrill 16 - apprentice (Scale Maker)

1861 England Census
Name: Thomas Gundle
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary E Gundle
Gender: Male
Where born: Wessen, Hertfordshire, England
Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerston St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Hare Walk

Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerstone West
Piece: 244
Folio: 63
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Gundle 35
Mary E Gundle 39 - Dressmaker; Aylesbury, Bucks

This looks like Edwards' marriage -

Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
Gundle Edward Holborn 1b 1068
Mason Sarah Ann Holborn 1b 1068

This is the only record I can find for Edward George Gundle between 1850 and 1911 on FreeBMD -

Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
Gundle Edward George Lambeth 1d 320

Who did Thomas (Edwards' father) marry?

I cannot find the records on FreeBMD???

Is this the marriage?

Thomas Gundle
England Marriages, 1538–1973
birth:
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence:
parents:
spouse: Mary Elizabeth Ford
child:
marriage: 11 Mar 1860 — Saint Leonards,Shoreditch,London,England

record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973
groom's name: Thomas Gundle
bride's name: Mary Elizabeth Ford
marriage date: 11 Mar 1860
marriage place: Saint Leonards,Shoreditch,London,England
indexing project (batch) number: M04080-6
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 405131

Have you found a birth record for Edward George Gundle?

Have you found a marriage for Edward George Gundle?

According to your post Edward was born before his parents married? Do you know his mother's name?

1881 census -

GUNDLE, Edward G Head Married M 26 1855 Jrnym Scale Maker
Islington
Middlesex VIEW
GUNDLE, Sarah A Wife Married F 24 1857
St Lukes
Middlesex VIEW
GUNDLE, Sarah A Daughter Single F 3 1878
Shoreditch
Middlesex VIEW
GUNDLE, Edward T Son Single M 0 1881
Shoreditch
Middlesex VIEW
PERRYMENT, Caroline Wife Married F 40 1841 Tie Maker
Plaistow
Essex VIEW
PERRYMENT, Richard C Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Stepney
Middlesex VIEW
PERRYMENT, William H Son Single M 2 1879
Stepney
Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
396 Folio:
19 Page:
31

Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Hoxton Old Town Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Shoreditch Municipal Borough:
Address:
8, Gt James St, Shoreditch County:
Middlesex



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1891 census -

GUNDLE, Edward G Head Married M 36 1855 Scale Maker
Islington
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Sarah A Wife Married F 34 1857
St Lukes
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Sarah A Daughter Single F 13 1878 Scholar
Shoreditch
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Edward T Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar
Shoreditch
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Mary E Daughter Single F 6 1885 Scholar
Shoreditch
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Matilda V Daughter Single F 4 1887 Scholar
Shoreditch
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Arthur Son Single M 2 1889
Shoreditch
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Charlotte Daughter Single F 0 (UNDER3M) 1891
Preston
Sussex VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
820 Folio:
78 Page:
16

Registration District:
Steyning Sub District:
Shoreham Enumeration District:
23 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Lukes

Civil Parish:
Preston Municipal Borough:
Brighton Address:
18, Port Hall Road, Preston, Hove, Brighton County:
Sussex

1901 census -

GUNDLE, Edwin G Head Married M 46 1855 Scale & Weighting Machine Maker
Islington
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Sarah A Wife Married F 44 1857
St Lukes
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Sarah A Daughter Single F 23 1878 Dressmaker
St Leonards
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Edward T Son Single M 20 1881 Apprentice To Scale Maker
Shoreditch
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Mary E Daughter Single F 16 1885 Improver Dressmaker
Shoreditch
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Matilda V Daughter Single F 14 1887 Matcher To Dressmaker
Shoreditch
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Arthur Son Single M 12 1889
Shoreditch
London VIEW
GUNDLE, Charlotte Daughter F 10 1891
Brighton
Sussex VIEW
GUNDLE, John Son M 6 1895
Brighton
Sussex VIEW
GUNDLE, Maud Daughter F 3 1898
Brighton
Sussex VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
924 Folio:
42 Page:
18

Registration District:
Brighton Sub District:
East Brighton Enumeration District:
20 Ecclesiastical Parish:
The Annunciation

Civil Parish:
Brighton Municipal Borough:
Address:
41, Coleman Street, Brighton County:
Sussex

1911 census original states 12 children born, 5 died

1911 census for reference -

GUNDLE, Edward George Head Married M 56 1855 Seats Maker London Horton VIEW
GUNDLE, Sarah Ann Wife Married
35 years F 54 1857 London St Lukes VIEW
GUNDLE, Mary Elizabeth Daughter Single F 26 1885 Dressmaker London Horton VIEW
GUNDLE, Charlotte Daughter Single F 20 1891 Dressmaker Brighton Sussex VIEW
GUNDLE, Jack Son Single M 15 1896 Office Boy Brighton Sussex VIEW
GUNDLE, Maud Daughter F 13 1898 School Brighton Sussex VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
5107 Reference:
RG14PN5107 RG78PN226 RD79 SD1 ED19 SN265

Registration District:
Brighton Sub District:
East Brighton Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Brighton

Address:
41 Cobden Road Brighton County:
Sussex

I know Thomas Gundle was the father of Edward George Gundle born 1855. Edwards parents married in 1860 in Hackney.London. On Thomas's marriage certificate it states father Thomas but can not find him or where he was born. There are many Gundles in Herts but Thomas is very popular. Can anyone look it up for me. Would appreciate.