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Olive cooper vorn around 1914- she had brother cyril and sisters Ida, Lillian, and Eva.
Olive then went to marry Leslie Evans aroun the time of 1940. Olive died in 1960, Leslie died in 1990.
Leslie has brothers harold and jack and sisters vera and hilder.
Does this provide enough to find either of their parents? everyone as far as im aware is derby born and bred. Many may be on as young children in the 1911 census.
As far as im aware everyone has died in the above.

Hello Emma, Cooper isn't an unusual name so the best place to start is to get some certificates of marriages and births to get parent's names and father's occupations.

Have you done any searches to trace these records?

Could this be her marriage?

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1937
Cooper Olive G Evans F.of Dean 6a 715
Evans Leslie G Cooper F.of Dean 6a 715

(If you're aware of any middle names/initials it's always useful to mention it).

If this is her marriage then you can order a copy of the certificate for £9.25 from GRO - http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Hi a possible

1911 census

Household information
Address 28a Higher Albert St Stonegravels Chesterfield
Parish Chesterfield
Town Stonegravels Chesterfield
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms Five 5
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN21094 RG78PN1257 RD438 SD2 ED15 SN400
Administrative County Derbyshire
Registration District Chesterfield
Registration Sub District Chesterfield
Enumeration District 15

Householder 1
Name William Henry Cooper
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Occupation Grocers Warehouseman
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Grocery
Place of Birth Derby Chesterfield

Householder 2
Name Anne Cooper
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / 13 Years
Total Children Born Alive 2
Children Still Living 2
Gender F
Age 37
Estimated Year of Birth 1874
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Derby Staveley

Householder 3
Name Eva Cooper
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1899
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Derby Chesterfield

Householder 4
Name Ida Cooper
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1905
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Derby Chesterfield

Householder 5
Name David Carpenter
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender M
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1890
Occupation Billiard Maker
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Refreshment Rooms
Place of Birth Derby Staveley

This is the only death I can find in the Derbyshire area that roughly fits.


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Olive Evans
Death Registration Month/Year: 1958
Age at death (estimated): 43
Registration district: Derby
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 175

This birth fits the initial on the marriage:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Olive G Cooper
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Bailey
District: Monmouth (1837-1939)
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 27

This looks like a more likely marriage -

Name: Olive Cooper
Spouse Surname: Evans - Leslie
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1943
Registration district: Shardlow
Registration county (inferred): Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 1048

Leslie perhaps?

Death
Name: Leslie Evans
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1914
Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 1988
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Derby
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume: 6
Page: 735

Birth
Births Dec 1914
EVANS Leslie Sadler Derby 7b 1125

Siblings
Births Mar 1912
EVANS Harold Sadler Derby 7b 1193

Births Mar 1916
Evans Vera Sadler Derby 7b 1027

Possible marriage for parents -

Marriages Dec 1893
Bull Thomas Derby 7b 888
*********Evans John Derby 7b 888
Ludlum Edith Derby 7b 888
**********Sadler Carrie Derby 7b 888
Wells Emma Derby 7b 888

1911 doing a free search -

HOUSEHOLD EVANS CARRIE F 1871 40 Derby Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD EVANS ETHEL CARRIE F 1895 16 Derby Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD EVANS HILDA F 1903 8 Derby Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD EVANS JOHN M 1904 7 Derby Derbyshire
HOUSEHOLD EVANS JOHN THOMAS M 1872 39 Derby Derbyshire

Full transcript of that 1911:

EVANS, John Thomas Head Married M 39 1872 Joiner Kenktish Town London
EVANS, Carrie Wife Married 17 years F 40 1871 Quorndon Derby
EVANS, Ethel Carrie Daughter Single F 16 1895 Surgical Bandage Finisher Derby
EVANS, Hilda Daughter F 8 1903 Derby
EVANS, John Son M 7 1904 Derby

Registration District: Derby Sub District: Derby Enumeration District: 32 Parish: Derby

Address: 26 Abbey St Derby County: Derbyshire

Three children born, all living.

Thank you MC:)

I'm struggling with the Olive Cooper though. I found these with a free search on 1911 but I can't find an Olive birth in Ashbourne that would fit the death in 1958. Also, there doesn't appear to be a father in this one and if he died there weren't likely to be any more Cooper children i.e. Olive.
On the other hand, if this is the marriage the only death for a Herbert Cooper from 1908 to 1911 in Derbyshire is in 1910 and he is 61 years old, so a bit old for Charlotte!
I wonder if you you would be kind enough MC to have a look and see if Charlotte is a widow please?

Marriages Sep 1898
CASH Henry Archer Derby 7b 928
*******Cooper Herbert Derby 7b 928
********Taylor Charlotte Sarah Derby 7b 928
Winfield Florence Derby 7b 928


COOPER CHARLOTTE SARAH F 1876 35 Ashbourne Derbyshire
COOPER CYRIL HERBERT M 1905 6 Ashbourne Derbyshire
COOPER IDA IRENA M 1909 2 Ashbourne Derbyshire
COOPER LILIAN MUREAL F 1902 9 Ashbourne Derbyshire
COOPER EVELINE MAY F 1900 11 Ashbourne Derbyshire

Oh there's an Eva that would fit too! Where is Olive!

Births Sep 1911
Cooper Eva M Taylor Derby 7b 1250

Unless for some odd reason her mother went to Basford (Notts) to have her. The others all have second names though, so why wouldn't they give Olive one.

Births Dec 1914
COOPER Olive Taylor Basford 7b 516

It looks as though the Olive and Leslie marriage cert is the only way to go Emma.

Need to look at this one carefully in conjunction with a map of the time. Chesterfield is Derbyshire not Derby and Shardlow Registration District can cover as far as Stapleford in Nottinghamshire.

I think the Evans one looks a good possibility Perchino but I'm not at all confident that we have found the Olive Cooper family. That's why I said the marriage cert is the only way to go. The marriage in Shardlow is the only one that fits in Derbyshire.

thank you! my mother doesnt know much about her family and so this side of my family tree is very empty. This really is great!

The 1911 that Christine asked about shows Charlotte as married 12 years. It says she has 5 children born, 4 surviving. Written across the census page are the words "Husband Absent".

COOPER, Charlotte Sarah Wife Married F 35 1876 Derby
COOPER, Eveline May Daughter F 11 1900 School Derby
COOPER, Lilian Mureal Daughter F 9 1902 Derby
COOPER, Cyril Herbert Son M 6 1905 Ruddington Notts
COOPER, Ida Irena M 2 1909 Colwick Notts

Registration District: Ashbourne Sub District: Brassington Enumeration District: 18 Parish: Bonsall

Address: Nether Green Bonsall County: Derbyshire

(Sorry for delay!)

Thank you again MC :)

Before you go any further Emma, can we ask please, have you got the Olive Cooper and Leslie Evans details from your mothers birth certificate?
If you haven't got your mothers birth certificate, and are guessing at her parents names, you need to get that certificate first.
Has your mother got any sisters or brothers?

p.s. If the family above does turn out to be the right one, Herbert was a greengrocer.

Christine2 your advice is very sensible. Unfotrunately will not have time to look until this weekend but there are early Derby (now) inner city records on the internet which I found some time ago in a very obscure place. Boundary changes in 1890's will not help. Also worth a look in the Leicestershire records.