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More Smiths?

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Melissa

Melissa Report 30 Mar 2011 22:14

I am now looking at the parents of my relative William Hector Smith and his mother Rebecca. Can anyone find me information prior to 1891 where I have a William Smith and his wife Rebecca and their children John aged 8 (later called William? age is right!) and Ellen aged 6.

10 years before, 1881, I can't find them. Can anyone find me a marriage entry for Rebecca and William or evidence for William before marriage?

Thanks as ever....

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 22:15

Where?

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 22:17

Guesswork....is this his birth?

Births Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Smith William Hector Kingston 2a 317


Cert will give full parental details

Melissa

Melissa Report 30 Mar 2011 22:20

William Hector (1883-1970?) was born and lived in Wimbledon, but I think both his parents William (1858-1900ish?) and Rebecca (1857-??) were born in Northamptonshire. The town of Easton seems to come up for Rebecca.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Mar 2011 22:21

1891 ?

Name: William Smith
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rebecca Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Wimbledon
Ecclesiastical parish: South Wimbledon
Town: Wimbledon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Smith 33
Rebecca Smith 35
John Smith 8
Ellen Smith 6

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 22:22

Please post the full details of 1891 census to which you refer............

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 22:23

I simply can't see how JOHN can be WILLIAM

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Mar 2011 22:24

Flick,

Neither can I see that William is John in 1891

Maureen

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 30 Mar 2011 22:25

William H Smith
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1883 — Wimbledon, Surrey
christening:
baptism:
death:
burial:
residence: 31 Mar 1901 — Wimbledon, Surrey, England
parents:
spouse:
child:
marriage:

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: William H Smith
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 18
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Wimbledon, Surrey
record type: Household
registration district: Kingston
sub-district: Wimbledon
ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
civil parish: Wimbledon
county: Kingston, Wimbledon, Wimbledon, Surrey

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Mar 2011 22:26

Is this his marriage ?

Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
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Lewington William Kingston 2a 568
Nunns Emily Kingston 2a 568
Smith William Hector Kingston 2a 568
Wise Lily Rose Kingston 2a 568


Melissa

Melissa Report 30 Mar 2011 22:27

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/records.page/image/e1891image/1041346

This is the 1891 census image I am referring to.
I can only guess that John is William's middle or christian name and once his father died he reverted to William. It wouldn't be the first time in my family.........!

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 22:29

And yet..........1901 makes it seem possible (perhaps the 1891 enumerator had been on the bottle!)

Name: Rebecca Smith
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Easton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Wimbledon
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England


Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 198
Household Members: Name Age
Rebecca Smith 44
William H Smith 18
Ellen P Smith 16


The address is the same......58 Kingston Road

Melissa

Melissa Report 30 Mar 2011 22:30

So if William is not John in 1891, but all the other information is correct, and I cannot find another example of a William and Rebecca having children, where else can I look to find him?

Confused....

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 22:33

The link you gave for 1891 means nothing to me..............

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 22:34

1891 is clearly an aberration on someone's part...........

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Mar 2011 22:37

1881 pure guess based on location

Name: Rebecca Britton
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Easton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Wimbledon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Spencer Hill
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Cook Domestic

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George A. Crowther 44
Marion C. Crowther 14
Edith G. Crowther 13
Evelyn A. Crowther 9
Violet E. Crowther 8
Alexander I. Crowther 6
Charles E. Crowther 4
George B. Crowther 2
Florence G. Prowse 21
Emily Gibbond 21
Rebecca Britton 26
Elizabeth Grazer 16

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Mar 2011 22:39

Marriages Jun 1881 (>99%)
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BRITTAIN Rebecca Kingston 2a 508
SKIPPER Eliza Kingston 2a 508
SMITH William Kingston 2a 508
Willis Charles Kingston 2a 508

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 22:39

Did you try looking for a marriage?

This is on freebmd


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Marriages Jun 1881 (>99%)
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BRITTAIN Rebecca Kingston 2a 508
SKIPPER Eliza Kingston 2a 508
SMITH William Kingston 2a 508
Willis Charles Kingston 2a 508


They would be single on 1881 census

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Mar 2011 22:41

1881 ? based onlocation

Name: William Smith
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Guilsborough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Wimbledon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: Graham Road 2 Alexander Villas
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Gardener

Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sidney George Tinniswood 27
Anna Tinniswood 29
Mary E. Tinniswood 7
Anna Tinniswood 2
William Smith 24

Flick

Flick Report 30 Mar 2011 22:45

1861

Name: Rebecca Brittain
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Brittain
Mother's Name: Mary Brittain
Gender: Female
Where born: Easton, Northamptonshire, England

Civil parish: Easton
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stamford
Sub-registration district: Stamford
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 171
Household Members: Name Age
George Brittain 46
Mary Brittain 42
Emma Brittain 10
William Brittain 8
Rebecca Brittain 6
Ann Brittain 3