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Hi,I am looking for descendants of Samuel Bagnall born about 1812 in Altrincham.Here's hoping. Della

How have you got back to Samuel? how is he related to you?

jax

He was my great great grandfather.I have gone through census records

So if you have got back to him you know who his decendants are??

You being one of them?

jax

The thing is

- no descendant of this person is very likely to happen on your post here in the next decade (consider the odds)

- even a person who is a descendant might not ever see it because they don't know they are, not having researched as far back as him

- if you want help from all the rest of us members who read posts and help with searches, you have to tell us what you know, because we sure aren't going to go into it handicapped! You have gone through census records -- and we're not going to do it all over again. ;) You can copy and paste those records -- the household lists, with names and ages -- into a post in this thread.

I recommend you click on Help Clinic in the upper left and read the instructions, one of which is to give all the info you have -- which includes his spouse's name and their children, and the descendants you do know of (e.g. your line).

Then click on Trying to Find and you will be on the complete board that we all read, not just the tiny Bagnall board, and have a browse of a few threads. You can find your own thread any time by clicking on "My thead participation" on the left.

And of course, Search Trees (the button up top). Are you in touch with the several other people who have Samuel in their family trees?

For reference - is this the right family ?

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Household:1881

Samuel BAGNALL Head M Male 68 Altrincham, Cheshire, England Gardener (Dom)
Frances BAGNALL Wife M Female 69 Altrincham, Cheshire, England
Isaac BAGNALL Son U Male 29 Altrincham, Cheshire, England Cabinet Maker
Frances HOPLEY Daur M Female 26 Altrincham, Cheshire, England
William HOPLEY Grandson Male 2 Altrincham, Cheshire, England
Henry BAGNALL Grandson Male 15 Altrincham, Cheshire, England Scholar
Evan DAVIES Lodger U Male 20 Harwarden, Flint, Wales Police Officer


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Dwelling 5 Park Lea
Census Place Altrincham, Cheshire, England

Births Sep 1851 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bagnall Isaac - Altrincham 19 8


Can't see a marriage for Samuel and Frances before 1851 so perhaps Frances is not Isaac's mother.
You would need his birth certificate to be sure.

Birth cert for grandson

Births Jun 1865
Bagnall Henry - Altrincham 8a 159

Daughter's marriage ? ( though wrong area )

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Marriages Dec 1878

******BAGNALL Frances - W. Derby 8b 544
******HOPLEY Charles Broomfield - W. Derby 8b 544
RUTHERFORD Sarah W. Derby 8b 544
Wilson William West Derby 8b 544

Well, you can go on a goose chase if you like! when Della Mary has all the info and there's just no need for us to guess at anything ...

Thanks for your help Mike it is the right family , I have only been able to find limited information. To jax ,I might be a descendant but there must be a great deal more out there. Janey, I dont want anyone on a wild goose chase just a little help and I certainly dont have all the info. Thanks anyway

Everything that Mike posted can be found for free

It seems that Samuel had at least 7 children so are you after decendants of all of them?

jax

Well, Della Mary, if you don't want to post the info you have already, so people can help you find more, that's up to you!

hi della, i had a quick look for you and you may already have this info but thought i'd share it anyway.
samuel bagnall (1812/1885) 1851 george street altrincham was a grocer. 1861 7 dunham road, then 1871 and 1881 5 park lea Gardener. he died in 1885
he was married to a Frances Smith (1812)

Their children were
John (1837 - 1880)
Samuel (1839)
Thomas (1841)
Sarah (1846)
William (1849)
Isaac (1852)
Frances (1855)


John (1837 - 1880) married a Mary Howell (1836-1878) and their children were
Henry (1866 -1887)
Sarah (1867 - 1872)
Eliza (1870)
Selina ( 1870 - 1890)
Fred (1877 - 1925)

Fred Bagnall (1877 - 1925) married a Jane Gregory and they had these children

Fred James (1902 - 1981)
John Charles (1903)
Minnie (1905 - 1990)
Harry (1907)
William Henry (1907)
Percy (1909 - 1974)
walter (1911)

Fred James Bagnall (1902-1981) married a Katie Allen and they had 3 boys and a girl, all living to my understanding

Minnie Bagnall (1905 - 1990) married a Reginald Null Cotterill and they had 2 boys and 2 girls, all living to my understanding

Percy Bagnall (1909-1974) married a Ethel Myatt (1911-1998) and they had 2 girls (living) and a son David Bagnall (1941-2010)

**Fred Bagnall seems to take the family from altrincham to over staffordshire way. I cannot find your ancestors on the 1841 census which is annoying. they did live on george street in 1851, which is where my family lived... if anything more turns up i shall let you know.

Hope this is of some help :D :-D

Caroyn

It might be worth sending a private message to Della by clicking on her name as she has not returned since march so she may not see this

jax

Thanks for all your help Carolyn, Fred Bagnall and Jane Gregory were my grandparents. Della .

Found this on the new familysearch.org Della...a possible connection...

Name: Samuel Bagnall
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Dec 1883
Event Place: St. John, Altrincham, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age: 28y
Marital Status: Single
Father: Isaac Bagnall
Mother:
Spouse: Sarah Elizabeth Grantham
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father: George Drinkwater
Spouse's Mother:
Film Number:1655304
Digital Folder Number: 4018309
Image Number: 223

https://www.familysearch.org/

This marriage is also indexed on CheshireBMD...

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

The 1878 marriage of Frances Bagnall which Mike* kindly found took place at St George, Everton, Liverpool...

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Hope this is of some help.

Linda