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For William Henry to be 1 in 1871 means he was born between April 2nd 1969 and April 2nd 1870, exactly when Williamina was born.

Either there was some confusion over the sex of the baby, or she died and they adopted William.

Rose

Martin did have another thread earlier this year but that was looking for Annie Burgess's family.

I can't find anything else - Williamina seems to have disappeared - nothing on either scotlandspeople or freebmd.

Hi Potty - I was going to try to match those births to census records but I just have a feeling that this is all a little familiar (bells were ringing when I found the Eliza on the census) but I can't find the older thread on this. I just remember looking up this name before - probably because it is not that common in Scotland.

These two will be the same birth as St. Rollox is where the maternity hospital was and the birth would be registered there then copied into the registration book for the area where the parents lived.

1881 SHUFFLEBOTHAM THOMAS M DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0667
1881 SHUFFLEBOTHAM THOMAS M ST ROLLOX GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0543

Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%)
xxxx Burgess Anniemaria Stoke T 6b 258
Scott John Stoke On Trent 6b 258
xxxx Shufflebottom George Martin Stoke upon Trent
Shufflebotton George Martin Stoke upon Trent 6b 258
Smith Fanny Stoke On Trent 6b 258

rootgatherer, on the 1871 Wm Henry is given as born Glasgow, not Boness, so he could be the one b 1871 in Blythswood.

Edit: No the one in Blythswood is the one with parents Thomas and Elizabeth (Mathieson). Both his and his brother Thomas are on familysearch.

The Eliza born 1884 in Dennistoun, Glasgow??

Name: Elizabeth Shufflebottom
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/3
Registration district: Dennistoun
Civil parish: Glasgow Springburn
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 147 Wellfield St
Occupation: Workers Bookexamines
ED: 116
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1901_279
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Brownlie 53
Elizabeth Brownlie 46
Hugh Brownlie 2
Elizabeth Shufflebottom 16
Robert Carruth 27
Alfred Carruth 16

1881 - Might account for some of the births on SP.

Name: William Shufflebottom
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Shufflebottom
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Shufflebottom
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Denton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 73 Holland St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration district: Denton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Shufflebottom 41
Elizabeth Shufflebottom 47 b. Scotland
John Shufflebottom 14
Thomas Shufflebottom 12 b. Edinburgh
William Shufflebottom 10 b. Glasgow
Henry Shufflebottom 7
Archibald Shufflebottom 5
Annie Shufflebottom 3
James Shufflebottom 1

These are the births on Scotlandspeople between 1865 and 1885. Search was done by entering Shufflebot* so it would include Shufflebottom and Shufflebotham. Note that the only Bo'ness births do not include a William but then again the Bo'ness births are later so perhaps his parents moved to Bo'ness after his birth and he just assumed that he was born in the same place as his younger siblings.

1 1883 SHUFFLEBOTHAM ALFRED M DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0018
2 1884 SHUFFLEBOTHAM ELIZA F DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0827
3 1865 SHUFFLEBOTHAM JOHN M HIGH CHURCH GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/02 0323
4 1868 SHUFFLEBOTHAM THOMAS M CANONGATE EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/03 1249
5 1881 SHUFFLEBOTHAM THOMAS M DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/03 0667
6 1881 SHUFFLEBOTHAM THOMAS M ST ROLLOX GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0543
7 1871 SHUFFLEBOTHAM WILLIAM M BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/06 0128
8 1871 SHUFFLEBOTTOM ANNIE ELIZABETH F BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0095
9 1873 SHUFFLEBOTTOM GEORGE M BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0106
10 1875 SHUFFLEBOTTOM SAMUEL M BO'NESS /WEST LOTHIAN 663/00 0106
11 1869 SHUFFLEBOTTOM WILLIAMINA F GLASGOW CENTRAL DISTRICT GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/01 1564


To look at any one of these uses 5 Credits so to view all eleven would only use 55 credits plus one to view your search results. 60 credits cost £12 so to view / download the register entry for all of those births costs less than buying 2 English certificates. As Potty has already said Scottish certificates give more information as well as being considerably cheaper!

The birth safc found is on scotlandspeople - the registration will have George and Annie's date and place of marriage.

I would also look at the image on the 1871 census on scotlandspeople, just to confirm that Wm Henry is not Williamina. To be one when the census was taken in 1871, he must have been born early in 1870 which is very close to Williamina's birth in 1869.

Actually, Martin, Scotland does have a database of births, marriages and deaths, searchable on line and giving access to actual registers (not just indexes, like the English and Welsh ones). The registers also give far more information than the English and Welsh ones.

All this info can be found on scotlandspeople but you must know that as you have referred to it in your post! If William was adopted by the Shufflebottoms, his birth would probably have been registered under his birth name. Just because he had a piece of Cameron tartan does not necessarily mean his birth name was Cameron - there are lots of other surnames associated with the clan.

So this is William in 1871:

1871 Scotland Census
about Wm Henry Shufflebottom
Name: Wm Henry Shufflebottom
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Geo Martin Shufflebottom
Mother's Name: Annie M Shufflebottom
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 663
Registration district: Bonness
Civil parish: Bonness
Town: Bo'ness
County: West Lothian
Address: East Street
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 14
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_152
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Martin Shufflebottom 22
Annie M Shufflebottom 21
Wm Henry Shufflebottom 1
John Wallbank 18

????
his sister

Name: Williamina Shufflebottom
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date:
Baptism/Christening Place:
Birth Date: 12 Jul 1869
Birthplace: CENTRAL DISTRICT,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Martin Shufflebottom
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Annie Maria Burgess
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11644-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
Source Film Number: 6035516
Reference Number:
Collection: Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

I think he had a half brother James "click on the reply button" brummiejan that tree on ancestry is my old one and its not up to date and I haven't found William Henry in the 1881 census I think he is a boarder in 1891 and he is living in the 1901 census with his wife sarah and son frederick william and I have also found him in the 1911 census I will post them in due course. Any other help?

Do you have them on any other census?

There is a tree on Ancestry which has Anne born in Iden, Sussex and dying in Stoke-upon-Trent 1881. They too have no other details for her or William.
Jan

Did he have any siblings?

Rose

I think you can rule out 1872 for his year of birth if he's on the 1871 census!

Rose

I love the Scots don't get me wrong but I just wish they would have created a database of all births, marriages and deaths like England and Wales it would make researching your scottish ancestors easier by far. Same goes for Ireland. lol

Hello I'm wonder if anyone can help me, I am trying to find a birth record for my great great grandfather William Henry Shufflebotham/Shufflebottom. He was born around 1870/1871/1872 in Bon'ess, Scotland but so far I have been unable to find a Birth Record for him mainly because I live in Wales and am having trouble searching for a scottish record. I have found him living with his parents George Martin Shufflebotham and Annie Maria Burgess in the 1871 Scotland Census however I have just learnt from a family member that these may have been his adoptive parents and that maybe he was adopted out of the Cameron of Lochiel family as he had all his life a piece of tartan in the ancient style of the camerons of lochiel clan. I have searched Ancestrty, Scotspeople, family search for a birth record for either William Henry Shufflebotham or Cameron but have found nothing.

All I know is that his alleged parents were George Martin Shufflebotham (1849-1883 born in Shelton, Stoke-Upon-Trent) and Annie Maria Burgess (also born in stoke-upon-trent) his alleged paternal grandparents were James and Ann Shufflebotham (nee Worthington) and his alleged maternal Grandmother was Martha Burgess I have been unable to find a father for Annie Maria Burgess.

I have been told also that his grandmother wanted to see him before she died to tell him who he really was but he didn't see her as he couldn't lose wages at the time. I also know there was a will made out to him and there was also an advert looking for him in a newspaper but I don't know how to go about finding these. Is there somebody who could help please?