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nudging for any form of info with regards to the mention people below.
Another 'possible' for Joseph?

MILLER, Joseph Head Married 4 years M 24 1887 Tailors Cutter Russia
MILLER, Rebecca Wife Married F 25 1886 Russia
MILLER, Harry Son M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 London

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Registration District:
Whitechapel Sub District:
Spitalfields Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Liberty of Old Artillery Ground

Address:
17 Gun Street County:
London

This is gthe 2nd time today im trying to add some info.
umm here at last with a new year and am hoping for someone who likes a challenge, to take on finding where was the above Father, when 3 of his children went into care of the poor houses?
where are the two eldest children ?
and when did they come to surrey from up in nothumberland (so says cens 1911.Mother Mary nt shown believe she died while or sometime after givng birth to Ellen our granma.

I am abt 100% sure that the info i have on this thread with regards to croyden area, is exactly where my Gran Ellen must have met our Granpa Benjamin charles Terrell surrey.. fits pretty well, also certs give this info.

i am in the process of emailing to see if there are any form of records that i maybe able to seee or obtain info.
so will get back to you folks when i have some .

thanking you if you have taken time to read this.

hello everyone...brrr what a cold one brrr..

I am hoping to find someone who likes a challenge to see if we can find out anymore info on my gran and siblings.
is there a way that i can trace them, basically i would like to know where their father and mother were when they went into the poor houses/schools.

i have info on this thread that points to some of them and im nearly 100% sure that this is them , as later on my gran Ellen married a benjamin charles terrell from surrey.
sorry if im confusing, but thats just how im feeling.

i am emailing the appropriate people to see if i can get any info of their stays whilst in the institutions.

Thanking you in advance
jacki b ;-)

nudgin for Dea

Dea i am so happy with all theinfo you have given. I am goin to see if i can find out about the poor houses. do you think i may get a record (copy) of some sort?
yes the ones you have given so far seem to match, as their Sister my granma Ellen also moved down to london with my mother when she was about 2 1925ish from scotland.. they seem to have all moved about the country alot. i guess their mother Mary (also ffrm russia/poland.)died either when she gave birth to nan or just after as she is not on the census for 1901 when the family were living in Wigan/ northampton. mmmm thanx again for your time and help
i didnt grow up with the family so all the info iget makes it all more real. cheers
jacki b

you could be right there dea,
omg!! do you think you would be able to find anything more on the for me please?
oh would you be able to tell me if there is anyway that we could find out if this is our joseph and fam?
maybe i could find them somehow somewhere before they went to london..

this is so great to have thanking youagain
jacki b :D

Another 'possible' for Joseph?

MILLER, Joseph Head Married 4 years M 24 1887 Tailors Cutter Russia
MILLER, Rebecca Wife Married F 25 1886 Russia
MILLER, Harry Son M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 London

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RG14PN1468 RG78PN51 RD18 SD1 ED16 SN161

Registration District:
Whitechapel Sub District:
Spitalfields Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Liberty of Old Artillery Ground

Address:
17 Gun Street County:
London

Dea x

This could perhaps be William?

Institution: Roman Catholic Poor Law School For Boys St Vincents, ST VINCENT ROMAN CATHOLIC POOR LAW SCHOOL FOR BOYS



MILLER, William Schoolboy M 12 1899 School Boy Wigan

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Address:
St Vincent Poor Law School Garstang Road Fulwood Preston Lancashire County:
Lancashire

Dea x

The 'school' which Victoria was in on 1911 was this one:

Institution: Bishop Oreillys Memorial Poor Law Schools Leyfield R C, LEYFIELD ROMAN CATHOLIC POOR LAW SCHOOLS, HONEYSGREEN LANE

Dea x

nudgin

hi again folks,
yeah theyve gone for a break so im here quickly b4 they get back, hehehe
i forgot to mention that william (uncle billy)worked for the railways we think in wigan but cannot be 100% sure if this was wigan or somewhere else.
mmm seems he's dissapeared too..
i shall be back again bye
jacki b

hi patchem,
as far as the certs of victoria,william,ellen go doesnt give any middle names.
thanx
jacki b

hey glitterbabe,
longtime no hear. hp you are ok.
yes thats interesting do you know if it was a school as we know school or was it a workhouse? did you find her brother william anywhere ?
thanx for that.
do you think there is a way to find out if this is realy my grt aunt?
or more info on the place she was at?
cheers
have a good day,
jacki b

Hi everyone who has helped me with the missinf people, i havent had a realy good check of them all yet as i have builoders and cant get a moments peace to look . anywas i wanted to say thanx very much, when i have checked it all out will getback and let you know what and if i get a result.
thanx again fols
jacki b

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RICKECK, Becky Wife Married
7 years F 28 1883 Tailoress Russian Poland VIEW
RICKICH, Esther Daughter F 5 1906 London Whitechapel VIEW
RICKICK, Carry Daughter F 4 1907 London Whitechapel VIEW
MILLER, Mary Servant F 21 1890 Servant Russian Poland VIEW
BARNETT, Leah Niece F 20 1891 Tailoress Russian Poland VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1471 Reference:
RG14PN1471 RG78PN51 RD18 SD1 ED19 SN209

Registration District:
Whitechapel Sub District:
Spitalfields Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Mile End New Town

Address:
1 Dunk St E County:
London



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Regards Vera

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1911
Person: MILLER, Ellen
Institution: Workhouse - North Surrey District School, WORKHOUSE - NORTH SURREY DISTRICT SCHOOL


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MILLER, Ellen Inmate F 14 1897 VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3420 Reference:
RG14PN3420 RD39 SD5 ED16 SN9999

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
Penge Enumeration District:
16 Parish:
Penge

Address:
Anerley Road Anerley S E County:
Surrey

Regards Vera

Thanks pricklyholly for the extra information,
Joseph ?:
FORDONSKI, Aaron Head Married M 32 1879 Tailor Aldgate
FORDONSKI, Leah Wife Married 2 years F 23 1888 Spitalfields
FORDONSKI, Sidney Maurice Son Single M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 County of Croydon
MILLER, Joe Boarder Single F 24 1887 Tailor Poland Resident

RG number: RG14 Piece: 3325 Reference: RG14PN3325 RG78PN126 RD39 SD3 ED3 SN62
Registration District: Croydon Sub District: West Croydon Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Croydon
Address: 18 Ainsworth Road Croydon County: Surrey

If he can get to Surrey, they could be anywhere in the country.

Do you know if any of them had middle names?
Miller is quite a common surname, unfortunately.
Which ones are definitely still alive in 1911?
Thanks

This is the 1901 census on Ancestry as i see it............


1901 England Census
about Victoria Miller
Name: Victoria Miller
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frank Miller
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: Wigan St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Wigan
Sub-registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Miller 43 ( Widower) Tailor...Born Russia Poland
Joseph Miller 15 (Tailors Apprentice) Born Russia Poland
Mary Miller 12 Born Russia Poland
Victoria Miller 4 Born Manchester Lancashire
William Miller 3 Born Mancester Lancashire
Ellen Miller 8 Months Born Wigan Lancashire
Andrew Maljeskine 20(Boarder) Born Russia Poland
Anthony Sodlosky 44 (Boarder) Born Russia Poland
Mary Birnckich 20 (Servant) Born Russia Poland
Constantine Shrnid 38 (Boarder) Born Russia Poland
Margaret Shrnid 22 (Boarder) Born Russia Poland

1911 ?
MILLER, Victoria School F 13 1898 School Girl Lancs Manchester VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22653 Reference:
RG14PN22653 RD455 SD10 ED44 SN9999

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
West Derby Eastern Enumeration District:
44 Parish:
West Derby

Address:
Honeysgreen Lane West Derby Liverpool