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I think he only way to establish who is who , is to buy some certificates. It has to be done sometime.

I would start with any or all of the ones marked below, and May Durrant's birth certificate.

Deaths Sep 1938
****Durrant William E 94 Eastbourne 2b 131****

Deaths Sep 1950
Durrant William G 65 Eastbourne 5h 201

Deaths Mar 1952
****DURRANT William G 70 Eastbourne 5h 268****

Deaths Jun 1942
****Durrant Caroline 85 Eastbourne 2b 165****

mary durrant born 1839 in Brighton in the 1881 census is in Paddington as the butlers wife, but no butler in residence that night, her eldest son is William born 1873, thats before the marriage in 1876. Had a quick look for butlers with Durrant name in 1881 but no williams. incase he was away.

yes thats them in 1891 could confirm it from the address on census.
my durrants death is mar 1952 as he saw my sister but not me so it would not be the 1950 one. Could Caroline be registered as a death as a durrant even if they never got married. If my William Edward Married Mary and then went off with Caroline that would make some sense. Worth looking at May the first born to see who her mother was. Although in the 1881 census she is with Caroline and William, and Woolich as it was spelt has moved to Surrey.

Found a Caroline Burt with family in 1871 . In 1851 same family in woolwich father a soldier.

Is this your family in 1891.

Young William is 10

Caroline Durrant
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Durrant
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England
Civil parish: Eastbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Eastbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub-registration district: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Durrant 38
Caroline Durrant 29
Willia Durrant 10
Alice Durrant 8
Abraham Durrant 6
Clara Durrant 4
Frank Durrant 1
Henry G Dyer 30


Deaths Sep 1938
Durrant William E 94 Eastbourne 2b 131

Deaths Sep 1950
Durrant William G 65 Eastbourne 5h 201

Deaths Mar 1952
DURRANT William G 70 Eastbourne 5h 268

Deaths Jun 1942
Durrant Caroline 85 Eastbourne 2b 165


Val

Marriages Jun 1876
Durrant William Birmingham 6d 224

Marriages Sep 1876
Durrant William Romford 4a 209
Durrant William Brighton 2b 372

Marriages Dec 1876
Durrant William Robert Poplar 1c 1173

These are the only William Durrant's who married in 1876.
They would usually have married in the wife's home town.

None to a Caroline Burt.

1891 census
showing William M Whitlock sep 1876 marriage
married to a Caroline


William M Whitlock
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline Whitlock
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William M Whitlock 38
Caroline Whitlock 39
William H Whitlock 13
Katherine W Whitlock 12
Eleanor J Whitlock 9
Grace V Whitlock 5/12

A bit hard to get marriage cert if you don't know the right one to order, I have five siblings to try, am looking at other trees if they know the history of William Edward and where he lived in Eastbourne I know we will be matched, and they may have already discovered Carolines maiden name or I will order a sibling birth cert who has a large gap to William George my grandfather.

I don't think that Liz has the marriage certificate but was working on the theory that the 1876 to Caroline Bradshaw must be the correct one. Obviously it isn't so it's back to the drawing board to try and find the correct one and match Caroline to the lady in the census.

Thanks for the clue with Greenwich I think we may then be on to Burt being the very neat handwriting on the birth cert, but also very small, it looks like a u and r because of the way durrant is written, I think looking at the other siblings is a good idea.

Do you believe your great grand mother was a Bradshaw because of this 1876 marriage or do you have it documented else where?

Do you have any of your grandfather's sibling's birth certificate?


Val

Can't find a marriage for this Caroline to William Durrant but worth a look

Births Sep 1860
BURT Caroline Greenwich 1d 596

Woolwich came under Greenwich before 1868

This is not the marriage between William and Caroline.
Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
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>>Bradshaw Caroline Brighton 2b 372
Crouch Mary Brighton 2b 372
>>Durrant William Brighton 2b 372
WHITLOCK William Mortimer Brighton 2b 372

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WILLIAM DURRANT
Male
Family
Event(s):
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY CROUCH
Family
Marriage:
09 SEP 1876 Saint Peter, Brighton, Sussex, England

Thanks, for all your info, my confusion is the actual birth certificate that Caroline Durrant registered for William Edward her maiden name is not Bradshaw and it looks like Bicht. As I could not find Caroline Bradshaw I hit on the Bicht family, I wish I had talked to my parents more!! Will try and look at other variations. Thanks again. It is the couple mentioned above on the 1891 census William is there he was born in April missed the 1881 census. Following him on later census I do know I am with the right one because of where he was living, then and the appearance of my grandfather.

Caroline Becht married Andrew Soderland in 1880 and in the 1881 census is living with him in the same building as her parents.


106 BECHT, Heinrich Head Married M 50 1831 Cabinet Maker
Germany VIEW
106 BECHT, Sophia Wife Married F 45 1836
Germany VIEW
106 BECHT, Amanda Daughter Single F 17 1864 Serv (Dom)
Middlesex VIEW
106 BECHT, Sophia Daughter Single F 15 1866 French Polisher
Middlesex VIEW
106 BECHT, Dora Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar
Middlesex VIEW
106 BECHT, Louise Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Middlesex VIEW
106 BECHT, Charles Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar
St Lukes
Middlesex VIEW
106 BARRET, John Lodger Single M 51 1830 Baker
Germany VIEW

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107 MULLER, Wilhelm Head Married M 63 1818 Skin Dresser
Germany VIEW
107 MULLER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 68 1813
Germany VIEW
107 MULLER, Jacob Son Single M 16 1865 No Employment
London St Georges E, London
Middlesex VIEW

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108 SODERLAND, Andrew Head Married M 31 1850 Ships Carpenter
The Netherlands VIEW
108 SODERLAND, Caroline Wife Married F 21 1860
Middlesex VIEW
108 SODERLAND, Andrew J Son Single M 0 1881
St Georges E
Middlesex VIEW

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Civil Parish:
Mile End Old Town Municipal Borough:
Address:
7 & 8, Charles Street, Mile End Old Town County:
Middlesex

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
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Becht Caroline Whitechapel 1c 635
Bechy Caroline Whitechapel 1c 635
Gallavan James Thomas B Whitechapel 1c 635
McCARTHY Caroline Annie Whitechapel 1c 635
Soderlund Andrew Whitechapel 1c 635

The
Bicht (Becht) Family. They are Becht in 1891 and Caroline was registered Becht

BICHT, Henry Head M 37 1834 Germany VIEW
BICHT, Sophia Wife F 35 1836 Germany VIEW
BICHT, Caroline Daughter F 10 1861 London VIEW
BICHT, Amanda Daughter F 6 1865 London VIEW
BICHT, Sophia Daughter F 4 1867 London VIEW
BICHT, Dora Daughter F 2 1869 London VIEW
BICHT, Mary Daughter F 0 1871 London VIEW

Civil Parish:
St Pancras Municipal Borough:
Address:
Grafton Mews, St Pancras County:
London, Middlesex


Your Caroline is quite specific on every census that she was born in Woolwich Kent. Caroline Becht was born in Marylebone so it's confusing.

Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
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BECHT Caroline Marylebone 1a 390

Is this the couple in 1881 married in Brighton in 1876
William Durrant
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline Durrant
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Eastbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Household Members: Name Age
William Durrant 26
Caroline Durrant 20
May A. Durrant 1


Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
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>>Bradshaw Caroline Brighton 2b 372
Crouch Mary Brighton 2b 372
>>Durrant William Brighton 2b 372
WHITLOCK William Mortimer Brighton 2b 372

where did this happen?

My great grandfather William Edward Durrant was married to a
Caroline Bradshaw but on my grandfathers birth certificate registered
by Caroline it looks like Bicht, I can trace a Caroline Bicht on the census but no Bradshaw she was born circa 1861 but appears to have married in
1876 which makes her fairly young. Any clues