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i have the wedding certificate of william innes age 35 and eliza cullum age37 married 23 dec 1905 in hackney london.fathers listed john innes( deceased ) policeman.and james cullum whalebone cutter
my problemis because there is no wife listed for john innes i cannot trace the correct person.
william innes was supposedly born in forres moray circa 1870

Have you tried looking for William's birth on Scotlands people?

Where did you find the info about his birthplace?

1871 England Census
about John Innes Name: John Innes
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jessie Innes
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members: Name Age
John Innes 33 [policeman]
Jessie Innes 28
John Innes 2
William Innes 2 Months
Margaret Innes 4

Your 'info' is not accurate.........1871 census

Name: John Innes
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Innes
Mother's Name: Jessie Innes
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members: Name Age
John Innes 33
Jessie Innes 28 born Scotland
John Innes 2
William Innes 2 Months
Margaret Innes 4

1881 England Census
about Jessie Innes Name: Jessie Innes
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Lodger (Head) (Lodger)
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: St Marys Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 19 St Paul St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Charwoman

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 55a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jessie Innes 38
Margaret Innes 14
Frederick Innes 6
Jessie Innes 1

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Deaths Jun 1880 (>99%)
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Innes John 40 Islington 1b 202

What makes you think he was born in Forres Moray (is that Scotland?) ?

Is this not him on 1901 born in Islington?

The occupation fits with marriage cert and his brother Frederick was one of the witnesses?

1901 England Census
about William Innes Name: William Innes
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Brother-in-Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington, South-East
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 301
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Hopkinson 22
Jessie Hopkinson 21
William Innes 31
Fredk Innes 27
Chas W G Hopkinson 9 Months


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 193; Folio: 23; Page: 37.

I will see if I can follow this back for you to confirm.

Dea x

EDIT - OOpps - Looks like it is already confirmed above !!

Dea x

JOHN INNES:


Spouse: JESSIE ANDERSON
Marriage: 16 MAR 1866 Forres, Moray, Scotland


Batch No.: M111371

Possible...............

JESSIE ANDERSON
Birth: 09 MAY 1843 Dyke, Moray, Scotland

Father: JOHN ANDERSON
Mother: JANET CAMPBELL
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FULL BATCH INFO............

Anderson, British Isles
Father: John , Mother: Janet
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C111334

1. MARGARET ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 31 JUL 1849 Dyke, Moray, Scotland

2. JESSIE ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 09 MAY 1843 Dyke, Moray, Scotland

3. GEORGE ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 01 NOV 1844 Dyke, Moray, Scotland

4. DAVID ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 03 NOV 1847 Dyke, Moray, Scotland

5. ROBERT ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 01 MAR 1846 Dyke, Moray, Scotland

6. JOHN ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 12 JAN 1841 Dyke, Moray, Scotland

7. ALEXANDER ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 31 OCT 1851 Dyke, Moray, Scotland

8. ANNE ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 01 MAY 1832 Dyke, Moray, Scotland

Could this help?

Name: William Innes
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: June 21st 1871
Baptism Date: 20 Feb 1874
Father's Name: John Innes
Occupation: Policeman
Mother's Name: Jesse Innes
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Paul, Westminster Bridge Road
Borough: Southwark

Christened on the same day:-

Name: Alexander Innes
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1874
Baptism Date: 20 Feb 1874
Father's Name: John Innes
Mother's Name: Jesse Innes
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Paul, Westminster Bridge Road
Borough: Southwark
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others:-
Name: John Innes
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1874
Baptism Date: 14 Feb 1874
Father's Name: John Innes
occupation: Policeman
Mother's Name: Jessie Innes
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Paul, Westminster Bridge Road
Borough: Southwark

Name: Frederick John Innes
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1875
Baptism Date: 28 Feb 1875
Father's Name: John Innes
Occupation: Policeman
Mother's Name: Jessie Innes
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington

Name: Jessie Jane Innes
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879
Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1879
Father's Name: John Innes
Occupation: Policeman
Mother's Name: Jessie Innes
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington

..........just in case you don't have it:-

1871
Name: Eliza Cullum
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Cullum
Mother's Name: Emma Cullum
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green
Civil parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Hackney Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cullum 37 (Whalebone Cutter) born: Bethnal Green
Emma Cullum 30 - all born Bethnal Green
James Cullum 9
Elizh Cullum 4
Eliza Cullum 3
Alfred Cullum 11 Months


Can't seem to see the couple in 1911?
Maybe someone else can!

Noticed 1891 isn't posted, so here it is:-

Name: Jessie Innes
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 45 Queens Cottages

Occupation: laundress wash

Condition as to marriage: widow

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington South
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jessie Innes 47
William Innes 20 - Window Ticket Writer (label)
Frederick J Innes 16
Jessie J James 11


and possible death for Jessie:-
Deaths Mar 1898 (>99%)
Innes Jessie 54 Islington 1b 280
(makes date of birth 1844)

Aged 54 in FIRST Qtr 1898 makes birth year much more likely to be 1843!

Hello Flick,
I just put 1844 as that is the date minus the age on the death record, and to show the comparison with 1891 census, but yes, you're absolutely right the date is more likely to be 1843.
Catherine x

My comment was intended for Albert's benefit.............but he doesn't seem interested in the info!

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William INNES Household
Male

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Other Information:
Birth Year
Birthplace Islington, Middlesex, England
Age 10
Occupation Scholar
Marital Status
Head of Household Mary Ann WARD
Relation Scholar
Disability

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Source Information:
Institution "Met & City Police Orph" Wellesley Hse Twickenha
Census Place Twickenham, Middlesex, England