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Hi all you miracle workers out there, I'm having difficulty finding an exact birth date for my great aunt Norah, I'm certain she was born in 1910. because I traced her marriage cert recently, she was married to "leonard kidd" on 5 August 1932, she was 22 and he was quite a bit older at 41, and was a Theatre Violinist, They must have lived together before they wed, because on the marriage cert the address is the same for both, but she lived with the rest of her siblings in south shields, I have all their info D,O,B's etc but hers is eluding me, any help will be greatly appreciated, Thank You ;-)

So her surname was Duggan?

hi,
what was Norahs maiden name? i will have a look around for you.
regards marie

1911 census - household transcription??
Person: DUGGAN, Norah
Address: 21 Wellington St So Shields


DUGGAN, Hugh Head M 27 1884 Drainers Labourer Drainers Durham South Shields VIEW
DUGGAN, Elizabeth Ann F 27 1884 Durham South Shields VIEW
DUGGAN, William Son M 5 1906 School Durham South Shields VIEW
DUGGAN, Joseph Son M 4 1907 Durham South Shields VIEW
DUGGAN, Norah Daughter F 1 1910 Durham South Shields VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30261 Reference:
RG14PN30261 RG78PN1745A RD556 SD1 ED2 SN89

Registration District:
South Shields Sub District:
South Shields Enumeration District:
2 Parish:
South Shields

Address:
21 Wellington St So Shields County:
Durham

Births Dec 1909 (>99%)
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Duggan Nora S. Shields 10a 795



You will need to get the certificate to find her exact date of birth

here she is
Name: Nora Duggan
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: South Shields
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 795

The parents cant be right, Norah "duggan" was the oldest child, so wiliam and joseph, dont ring any bells, thanks

PS Thanks very much for that, fingers crossed its her

They may not have lived together. People often put the same address so as to avoid putting banns in both parishes. The presumption was if you put a suitcase of clothes at the spouses address then this established the 6 week residence requirement . It didnt legally but was probably never challenged

Interesting fact, Thank You!!!

I would think the birth that Choccy found relates to the 1911 census.

Just to add a further check this looks like the marriage of the couple in 1911 and possible later children from FreeBMD (with mother's maiden name Proud). Is their a possible match with any of Norah's siblings?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
CARTER Joseph S. Shields 10a 1371
DAVIS Avis Ann L S. Shields 10a 1371
>>DUGGAN Hugh S. Shields 10a 1371
>>PROUD Elizabeth Ann P S. Shields 10a 1371


Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Duggan Catherine Proud S.Shields 10a 1629

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Duggan Gladys A Proud S.Shields 10a 1660

Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Duggan Walter A Proud S. Shields 10a 1602

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
Duggan John G Proud S.Shields 10a 1681

Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Duggan Olive Proud S.Shields 10a 1491

Births Jun 1925 (>99%)
Duggan Elizabeth C Proud S.Shields 10a 1579

Yes they are Norahs siblings, but dont recognise the other names
CARTER Joseph S. Shields 10a 1371
DAVIS Avis Ann L S. Shields 10a 1371
I'm assuming they're just witnesses?

Not witnesses - just the other couple getting married who share the same page

Oh ok, thanks for that

Are you sure that Norah was the oldest??

Just as an example, my mother told me that her father's brother only ever had one child.

She was very surprised when I told her that he wasn't an only child but one of four!!

Perhaps you never knew about the older siblings??

No, I'm pretty sure that Norah was the oldest we spent time with all our great aunts and uncle

One of the birth certs of the children born post 1911 would confirm their parents and whether the 1909 birth cert of Norah is the correct one.

Yes agreed, its on the way, so should be here by the end of the week, fingers crossed that I have the right cert ;-)

Just checking FreeBMD it is possible that Joseph from 1911 died

Deaths Dec 1926 (>99%)
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Duggan Joseph 20 S.Shields 10a 754

Thats an interesting fact, thx I'll look into it