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Can you help me please...I've traced my family back to my G.G.Grandfather Benjamin Bunce and have birth and marriage certificates which all tie up...the problem is...how can I get back any further than 1837 ?! Benjamin married Elizabeth Deards in 1839 but I cannot find where he was born etc. The only Benjamin I can find (who's Father was William) was born in Beedon Berks, but how can I prove this please, is it a case of visiting churches now ? I'd welcome your advise, thanks.

Have you found him on later census.s giving a place of birth
Its worth checking several census and places can alter each time.
You could look on the IGI on Family Search site and also at the Pilot Records

For location:

Marriages Dec 1839 (>99%)
BUNCE Benjamin Lambeth 4 329
Deard Elizabeth Lambeth 4 329

Is his father's name on the marriage cert?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Benjamin Bunce
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Deards
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 29 Dec 1839
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Bunce
Spouse Father Name: John Deards

Benjamin Bunce
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Deards
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 29 Dec 1839
Parish: St Mary at Lambeth
County: Surrey
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: William Bunce
Spouse Father Name: John Deards

Who was his father?

What was the father's occupation?

Possible

Berkshire, England
parents: William Bunce, Sarah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Benjamin Bunce
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 30 May 1818
baptism/christening place: SWALLOWFIELD,BERKSHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: William Bunce
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: P00854-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 291666

This is the nearest census I can find:

1871 England Census
about Benjamin Bunse
Name: Benjamin Bunse
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Bunse
Gender: Male
Where born: Bendna, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Bermondsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Bunse 53
Elizabeth Bunse 53
Maria Bunse 30
Mary Ward 62

Sorry, but you can't possibly have a birth cert for anyone born before July 1837

Baptism for the Maria in 1871:

MARIA BUNCE Pedigree
Birth: 21 SEP 1840

Christening: 18 OCT 1840 Christ Church, Southwark, London, England

Parents:
Father: BENJAMIN BUNCE Family
Mother: ELIZABETH

1841

HOLMES, Willm M 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
HOLMES, Mary F 25 1816 Middlesex VIEW
HORNE, Mary F 13 1828 VIEW
BUNCE, Benjn M 24 1817 VIEW
BUNCE, Elizh F 25 1816 VIEW
BUNCE, Maria F 0 (9 months) 1841 Middlesex VIEW


Civil Parish:
St Mary Mounthaw Municipal Borough:
London Address:
Old Fish Street Hill Labour In Vain Yard, St Mary Mounthaw, London County:
Middlesex

Possible for his parents but would need researching further

BUNCE, Wm M 60 1781 VIEW >>>>>Labourer NOT born in County
BUNCE, Sarah A F 40 1801 VIEW NOT born in County
BUNCE, Danl J M 5 1836 Berkshire VIEW
BUNCE, Caroline F 1 1840 Berkshire VIEW


Civil Parish:
Hungerford Municipal Borough:
Address:
Church Green, Hungerford County:
Berkshire

A very big thank you everyone for your trouble,you have the same Benjamin as me. In the 1841 census he's living in London but it doesn't say where he was born. In the 1851 census it says he was born in Beedon Berks. I think Astra's reply is interesting but wonder what my next step is. Should I get in touch with Berkshire archives? Sorry for sounding lost and thanks again.

Sorry Flick, meant to reply to you, no, I don't have any certs befor 1837, only wish I had. On Benjamin's marriage cert. of 1839 it gives his father as William Bunce anhis occupation as a labourer. Oh, and William was deceased poor chap!

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BENJAMIN BUNCE
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 MAY 1818 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BUNCE
Mother: SARAH

All children of William and Sarah on the same batch number as Benjamin.


1. WILLIAM BUNCE -
Gender: Male Christening: 01 DEC 1793 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

2. MATHEW BUNCE -
Gender: Male Christening: 14 NOV 1813 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

3. SARAH BUNCE -
Gender: Female Christening: 04 JUN 1811 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

4. JOHN BUNCE -
Gender: Male Christening: 18 NOV 1792 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

5. JOHN BUNCE -
Gender: Male Christening: 29 NOV 1795 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

6. BENJAMIN BUNCE -
Gender: Male Christening: 30 MAY 1818 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

7. EDWARD BUNCE -
Gender: Male Christening: 27 SEP 1807 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

8. ELIZABETH BUNCE -
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAR 1805 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

WILLIAM BUNCE
Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH COOK
Marriage: 01 DEC 1791 Swallowfield, Berkshire, England

Birth cert of youngest child on 1841 census should confirm mother's maiden name

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Births Jun 1839
Bunce Caroline - Aylesbury 6 340


edit :

On 2nd thoughts that chid couldnt be Benjamin's sister surely - born over 40 years after parents marriage above .... unless William married a 2nd Sarah maybe ???

Thank you Mike. I found a William Bunce married to a Sarah Cook also a William married to a Sarah Gold. Both in Berks and around the same time. Confusing isn't it.