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Gillian
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3 Mar 2011 11:50 |
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Can someone please take a look for this family in 1871 census
This is the family in 1881: 1881 Census: WORKMAN, Charles Head Married M 52 1829 General Labourer Charfield Gloucestershire WORKMAN, Lucy Wife Married F 46 1835 Charfield WORKMAN, Jane Daughter Single F 19 1862 Worker In Elastic Factory (India Rubber) Charfield Gloucestershire WORKMAN, Rosehanah Daughter Single F 15 1866 Worker In Elastic Factory (India Rubber) Charfield Gloucestershire WORKMAN, Alice Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Charfield WORKMAN, John Wm Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Charfield WORKMAN, Annie Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Charfield WORKMAN, Honour Daughter Single F 2 1879
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3 Mar 2011 11:53 |
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1871 England Census about Jane Workman Name: Jane Workman Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Workman Mother's Name: Lucy Workman Gender: Female Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Charfield Ecclesiastical parish: Charfield Town: Charfield County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Berkeley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 51 Household Members: Name Age Charles Workman 41 Lucy Workman 37 Ellen Workman 14 Joseph Workman 11 Jane Workman 9 Rosehannah Workman 6 Alice Workman 3 John Workman 1 Address looks like Charfield Back Terrace
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Gillian
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3 Mar 2011 12:02 |
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superb - thank you..........
is it possible to find them please in 1961 - I am particularly keen to find Joseph Workman as a baby ( also, I wonder if there was a Sarah )?
Occupation s & street address very useful..........many thanks again....
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3 Mar 2011 12:04 |
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1861 England Census about Charles Workman Name: Charles Workman Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Lucy Workman Gender: Male Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Charfield County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Berkeley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 28 Household Members: Name Age Charles Workman 30 Ag Labourer Lucy Workman 25 Ellen Workman 3 Joseph Workman 1 Andy
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Andrew
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3 Mar 2011 12:14 |
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Thois might be the Sarah Workman
1861 England Census about Sarah A Workman Name: Sarah A Workman Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Workman Mother's Name: Mary Workman Gender: Female Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Charfield County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Berkeley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Name Age James Workman 38 Mary Workman 29 Elizabeth Workman 12 Emily Workman 9 Ruth Workman 7 Sarah A Workman 5 Martha Workman 2 Louisa Workman 1 MO I wonder if Charles and James are brothers?
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3 Mar 2011 12:24 |
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1851 census Charfield Green, Charfield James Workman, head, 25, ag lab, born N. Nibley Mary A., wife, 23, born Hawkesbury Elizabeth, dau, 2, born Charfield Charles, brother, 22, ag lab, born N. Nibley
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Gillian
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3 Mar 2011 12:34 |
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Andy
You are Brill !
I have been really struggling to find Sarah & Joseph - who married in THornbury in 1884 . I had believed that they were related somehow and this is a definate possiblity and certainly - something new for me to research.
I had this info so far: Sarah Ann Workman married a Joseph Workman in Thornbury 1884. Joseph later dies in Thornbury June qtr 1897 aged 38yrs They had several children.
In 1899 - Sarah Workman had a daughter - Ada Lily Workman ( who was my grandmother).
Then Sarah Ann Workman marries again - Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%) Beckerton William Thornbury 6a 537 Workman Sarah Ann Thornbury 6a 537 Eventually - they move to Pontypridd.
I know nothing about Sarah Ann Workman ( or indead Joseph Workman) - other than they were born in Charfield / Thornbury c 1860. So I am desperate to trace them and thire families etc.
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Gillian
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3 Mar 2011 12:51 |
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Are there any street addresses shown in 1851 / 1861 ?? please.
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Andrew
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3 Mar 2011 12:58 |
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Therte is this from 1841
1841 England Census about Charles Workman Name: Charles Workman Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Charfield Hundred: Grumbalds Ash (Upper Division) County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Berkeley Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Workman 40 Elizabeth Workman 35 Mary Workman 14 >>>>Charles Workman 10 Sarah Workman 8 Martha Workman 6 Elizabeth Workman 4 Thomas Workman 3 John Workman 1 2 MO Nk 6 MO and a seperate entry for
James Workman 19
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Results for: Workman, British Isles Father: James , Mother: Elizabeth Exact Spelling: Off Batch Number: C036071 [refine search] [Print] Prepare selected records for download
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 2 Find more British records by searching on the updated FamilySearch site. Click here... Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. JAMES WORKMAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAR 1822 Methodist-Nc, Dursley, Gloucester, England 2. CHARLES WORKMAN - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 17 JUN 1828 Methodist-Nc, Dursley, Gloucester, England
so looks like Charles and James are brothers
which means Joseph and Sarah are cousins
Andy
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MargaretM
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3 Mar 2011 13:00 |
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The address for James & Mary & family in 1861 just says private which I think means private house. If it's any help the previous page has the "Talbot Arms" pub.
James is an ag lab born Nibley, Mary born Hawkesbury, children born Charfield.
Charles & Lucy's address in 1861 is the same, private. Charles is an ag lab born Charfield, Lucy born Kingswood, children Charfield.
I had posted the address in 1851, Charfield Green.
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Gillian
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3 Mar 2011 14:18 |
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I have been off line - so only just picked up yur messages .......
Thank you so much for all your work and the info you have given me - very, very much appreciated and has filled several 'gaps'....
Quick qestion - what does Methodist-Nc, mean?? ( ref: last infofor James & Charles Workman )
thanks again
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MargaretM
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3 Mar 2011 14:22 |
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Non-conformist?
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MargaretM
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3 Mar 2011 14:24 |
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In England, after the Act of Uniformity 1662 a Nonconformist was an English subject belonging to a non-Christian religion or any non-Anglican church. A person who also advocated religious liberty may also be more narrowly considered as such. English Dissenters (such as Puritans and Presbyterians) who violated the Act of Uniformity 1559 may retrospectively be considered Nonconformists, typically by practising or advocating radical, sometimes separatist, dissent with respect to the Established Church.
Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Baptists, Quakers (founded in 1648), and those less organized were considered Nonconformists at the time of the 1662 Act of Uniformity. Later, as other groups formed, they were also considered Nonconformists. These included Methodists, Unitarians, and members of the Salvation Army.
The religious census of 1851 revealed that total Nonconformist attendance was very close to that of Anglicans.
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Gillian
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3 Mar 2011 14:40 |
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ok - thats great - thank you........
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Gillian
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3 Mar 2011 14:50 |
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ok - this is really cheaky - as you have all been SO helpful - but I have just realised - I have one gap in my census records for Sarah Ann Workman & her parents / siblings in 1871 -
Is it possible please for someone to kindly take a look & find them?
This is them in 1861: 1861 England Census about Sarah A Workman Name: Sarah A Workman Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Workman Mother's Name: Mary Workman Gender: Female Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Charfield County/Island: Gloucestershire Street Address: Occupation: Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Berkeley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Name Age James Workman 38 Mary Workman 29 Elizabeth Workman 12 Emily Workman 9 Ruth Workman 7 Sarah A Workman 5 Martha Workman 2 Louisa Workman 1 MO
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MargaretM
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3 Mar 2011 15:36 |
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1871 census 6 Back Terrace, Charfield, Gloucestershire James Workman Jr., head, 48, ag lab, born N. Nibley Mary, wife, 40, born Hawkesbury Emily, dau, 19, spinner Ruth, dau, 17, feeder (woollen cloth) Sarah, dau, 13, " Martha, dau, 12, Helen, dau, 11 George, son, 2 Louisa, dau, 9
Children all born Charfield. Don't know why Louisa is listed last, they're usually in birth order. Maybe mother just forgot her (So many children she didn't know what to do!)
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3 Mar 2011 15:45 |
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Living next door to James Jr. 1871 census 5 Back Terrace, Charfield James Workman Senior, head, 74?, ag lab, born N. Nibley Elizabeth, wife, 74, born " David, son, 50, ag lab John, son, 32, coach man Susanna, dau, 28, wool picker Amelia, dau, 9 Henry, son, 6 Clara, dau, 3 Emma, lodger, 18, spinner
Everybody except parents born Charfield.
Children couldn't be James & Elizabeth's. Whose are they? John is married but he's the only one.
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MargaretM
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3 Mar 2011 15:57 |
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I know you didn't ask for it but curiosity overcame me. I had to try and sort out this family. On the 1861 census Emma who was just a lodger in 1871 is a grandaughter, 1861 census No address just private, Charfield James Workman, head, 67, ag lab Elizabeth, wife, 62 John, son, 21, ag lab Susan, dau, 17 Emma, grandau, 6
Parents born Nibley, children Charfield.
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Gillian
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4 Mar 2011 09:39 |
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HI Madbull
Many, many thanks for all the info that you have found for me - a lot to absorb & all very interesting.....
Two days ago, I kew so little about Sarah & James Workman - who it apears were cousins ( Sarah was my great-grandmother - James had died prior to my gran, Ada Lily Workman being born - so dont know who my great grandfather is )
Now - I know quite a bit - albeit, I need to 'understand' properly, all the relationships here.........
But, once again - I thank you for your help - and Andy & Chrissa - without you all I would still be 'in the dark'
Gill
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