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Mother in Law

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doreen

doreen Report 4 Mar 2011 18:42

Thanks everyone for all your help.

Have managed to find a Washington family tree on Ancestry because of the help you gave me.

Have asked the poster if he thinks I am on the right track and awaiting a reply.
Thanks again
Doreen

Potty

Potty Report 3 Mar 2011 11:01

This looks like the marriage of Thomas's parents. Still no sign of Washington:

HENRY KIDMAN Pedigree
Marriages:
Spouse: ANN COOK Family
Marriage: 19 NOV 1827 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England

There are a lot of births and baptisms on familysearch at St Dunstans for children of Henry and Ann, including Thomas's - his seems to be the only one that is submitted but it looks authentic.

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 2 Mar 2011 17:16

Looks as though it could be Thomas's first wife:

Marriages Jun 1864 (>99%)
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>>> Gray Eliza W. Ham 4a 3
Hillman Henry W. Ham 4a 3
>>> Kidman Thomas W. Ham 4a 3
Willoughby Jane W. Ham 4a 3


1871 census
Name: Thomas Kidman
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Kidman
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Hornsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 373
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Kidman 28
Eliza Kidman 28
Rose E Kidman 5
Bertha J Kidman 3
Edith E Kidman 2
Ernest A Kidman 8 Months
Eliza Godfrey 15

Still no sign of the Washington name!!

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 2 Mar 2011 17:05

Managed to find Thomas Kidman born c1844 during the 1861 census with his parents Henry and Ann, just need to find him now in the 1871 census to see if he was with his first wife!!

Name: Thomas Kidman
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Kidman
Mother's Name: Ann Kidman
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Stepney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Kidman 59
Ann Kidman 50
Thomas Kidman 17
Henrietta Kidman 13
Ann Kidman 10
Louisa Kidman 6

Potty

Potty Report 2 Mar 2011 16:45

Looks like Thomas had been married before:

1881 England Census
about Thomas Kidman
Name: Thomas Kidman
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Ann Kidman
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: So Hornsey
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address: 16 Arthur Road
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Manager Tobacco Makers

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 9c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Kidman 37 widower
Ann Kidman 70
Rose Kidman 15
Edith Kidman 13
Bertha Kidman 11
Ernest Kidman 9
Albert Kidman 6


Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 2 Mar 2011 16:42

1901 census for Albert Rickwood, with parents and siblings:-

Name: Albert Rickwood
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Rickwood
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Rickwood
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, London, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St John of Jerusalem South Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South-East Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 202
Household Members: Name Age
James Rickwood 53
Elizabeth Rickwood 52
Emma Rickwood 28
Thomas Rickwood 25
Frederick Rickwood 23
Mabel Rickwood 21
Lydia Rickwood 18
Ellen Rickwood 15
Albert Rickwood 13


Potty

Potty Report 2 Mar 2011 16:42

Was hoping that Harold's MMN would be Washington but afraid not as this looks like his parents' marriage:

Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%)

Brown James Hackney 1b 718
Kidman Thomas Hackney 1b 718
Rogers Mary Hackney 1b 718
SALMON Frances Louisa Hackney 1b 718

jax

jax Report 2 Mar 2011 16:39

1911 census - household transcription
Person: RICHWOOD, Albert Victor
Address: 66 Tynemouth Road Tottenham


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RICHWOOD, James Head Married M 64 1847 Coach Painter Bury St Edmunds Suffolk VIEW
RICHWOOD, Elizabeth Wife Married
43 years F 63 1848 London Clerkenwell VIEW
RICHWOOD, Albert Victor Son Single M 23 1888 Salesman London South Hackney VIEW
RICHWOOD, Emma Daughter Single F 38 1873 Assistant London Dalston VIEW
RICHWOOD, Lydia Victoria Daughter Single F 28 1883 Assistant London Dalston VIEW
RICHWOOD, Ruth Ellen Jessie Daughter Single F 25 1886 Assistant London South Hackney VIEW

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Rickwood on the origanal

Potty

Potty Report 2 Mar 2011 16:39

Birth reg for the Harold W in the 1901:

Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
Kidman Harold Washington Hackney 1b 534

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 2 Mar 2011 16:38

Possible birth for Albert V Rickwood:

Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
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RICKWOOD Albert Victor Hackney 1b 598

jax

jax Report 2 Mar 2011 16:38

Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
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RICKWOOD Albert Victor Hackney 1b 598

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jax

jax Report 2 Mar 2011 16:34

1911 census - household transcription
Person: KIDMAN, Ruby Grace
Address: 68 Tynemouth Road Tottenham


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KIDMAN, Thomas Head Widower M 67 1844 Retired Tobacconist Stepney London VIEW
KIDMAN, Florence Maud Daughter Single F 23 1888 Dalston London VIEW
KIDMAN, Stanley Thomas Son Single M 22 1889 Assistant Salesman Dalston London VIEW
KIDMAN, Ruby Grace Daughter Single F 19 1892 Machinist Dalston London VIEW
KIDMAN, Ada Madaline Daughter Single F 17 1894 Machinist Dalston London VIEW
KIDMAN, Kate Daughter Single F 15 1896 Assistant Dalston London VIEW
KIDMAN, Gladys May Daughter Single F 14 1897 School Tottenham Middx VIEW

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Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 2 Mar 2011 16:33

Doreen,

Your mother-in-laws mother during the 1901 census:

Name: Ruby G Kidman
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Kidman
Mother's Name: Mary Kidman
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingsland, London, England

Civil parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 342
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Kidman 57 - born Stepney, London
Mary Kidman 47 - born Hackney, London
Harold W Kidman 15
Florance M Kidman 13
Starley T Kidman 12
Ruby G Kidman 9
Ada A Kidman 7
Kate Kidman 6
Gladys M Totteham 4
Mary Packwood 27

Potty

Potty Report 2 Mar 2011 16:33

Looks like her parents marriage - the cert will give their ages and fathers' names, then you could look for them on the 1911 census:

Kidman Ruby G Rickwood Edmonton 3a 941
Rickwood Albert V Kidman Edmonton 3a 941

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 2 Mar 2011 16:31

Marriage of her parents:

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
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>>>> Kidman Ruby G Rickwood Edmonton 3a 941
>>>> Rickwood Albert V Kidman Edmonton 3a 941
Sanders Henry W Stocker Edmonton 3a 941
Stocker Florence A Sanders Edmonton 3a 941

Lynne From Up North !!

Lynne From Up North !! Report 2 Mar 2011 16:30

Doreen,

So this looks like your mother-in-law's birth - you will need to work backwards to see if any link can be found for the Washington name:

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Rickwood Margaret G W (MMN) Kidman Edmonton 3a 1066

jax

jax Report 2 Mar 2011 16:30

Births Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Rickwood Margaret G W Kidman Edmonton 3a 1066

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Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Kidman Ruby G Rickwood Edmonton 3a 941
Rickwood Albert V Kidman Edmonton 3a 941

doreen

doreen Report 2 Mar 2011 16:24

My husband's mother was born in 1913 and died in May 1980. Her full name was Margaret Gladys Washington Rickwood. Born in Croydon Surrey we think.

She married Reginal Albert Perry and they lived in Bristol.

Washington may be a family name passed down. We are really interested to know if it is?

Help appreciated.
Doreen