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Kate Isabel Webb

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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 27 Feb 2011 18:03

Beryl says thanks by PM -- you're very wecome.

Beryl

Beryl Report 25 Feb 2011 22:34

Hi Thanks for so much help. Birth certificate says mother was barmaid of 8 Welford Terrace, Fulham and her address at time of birth 103 St Dunstans Road which I believe may be a maternity home or something to do with the hospital.

Thanks again many leads to follow.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 25 Feb 2011 22:27

Just wondering if Beryl has the birth cert?? Maybe one of the 1911 addresses is on it.

Maureen

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Feb 2011 22:23

Well, so far I've been more interested than Beryl, but I'm tired and hungry, so I'll leave her to it!

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 25 Feb 2011 22:16

Right,Janey...not much more!
1911 census transcription details for: 16 Victoria Park Chesterton Cambridge
RG14PN9055 RG78PN481 RD180 SD1 ED5 SN155


Reg. District: Chesterton Sub District: Chesterton
Parish: Chesterton Enum. District: 5
Address: 16 Victoria Park Chesterton Cambridge
County: Cambridgeshire
SMITH, Everard Head Married M 26 1885 Clergyman Established Ch Kent Chislehurst
SMITH, Margaret Wife Married F 33 1878 Yorks Leeds
WEBB, Kate Servant Single F 21 1890 General Servant Domestic London Fulham


Maureen

patchem

patchem Report 25 Feb 2011 22:16

Probably a complete red herring, but if you look at Beryl's surname, a connection to Boes does not look impossible.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Feb 2011 22:12

Kath/Maureen -- I was editing my earlier post to add a Kate from 1911 -- but it looks like you have the one I had in 1901 ... so which is it? ;)

Do you want to take a peek at this one?

WEBB KATE 1890 21 Chesterton Cambridgeshire
- answers to "born in Fulham" and "servant" -- I don't subscribe for further details

I don't think it will say much more ...

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 25 Feb 2011 22:10

Darn-there are 2 born so close in Fulham in 1892. One with the middle name,but which one is which???
1911 census transcription details for: 72 Rectory Road Fulham S W
RG14PN349 RG78PN11 RD3 SD5 ED12 SN392


Reg. District: Fulham Sub District: South Fulham
Parish: Fulham Enum. District: 12
Address: 72 Rectory Road Fulham S W
County: London
WEBB, Henry Head Married M 57 1854 Builder's Assistant Middlesex Rinslip
WEBB, Ellen Wife Married
37 years F 56 1855 Middlesex Harrow
WEBB, Helen Daughter Single F 26 1885 Shop Assistant London Wandsworth
WEBB, Kate Daughter Single F 19 1892 Shop Assistant London Hammersmith
WEBB, Charles Son Single M 20 1891 Plumber London Kensington
WEBB, Gerald Son M 14 1897 Page Boy London Fulham
WEBB, Albert Son M 12 1899 School London Fulham

1911 census transcription details for: 41 Brecon Road Fulham S W
RG14PN292 RG78PN9 RD3 SD3 ED26 SN182


Reg. District: Fulham Sub District: North West Fulham
Parish: Fulham Enum. District: 26
Address: 41 Brecon Road Fulham S W
County: London

WEBB, Jas Head Married M 58 1853 Labourer Masons Wiltshire
WEBB, Jane Wife Married
23 years F 56 1855 Berkshire
WEBB, Serena Daughter F 22 1889 Laundress London Fulham
WEBB, Lezze Daughter F 21 1890 London Fulham
WEBB, Katie Daughter F 19 1892 Laundress London Fulham
WEBB, Ernest Son M 16 1895 Railway Porter London Fulham


Maureen

Sorry-no refreshing going on!!!!!!

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 25 Feb 2011 22:09

This looks like the family that Janey found in the 1911 census (seems much more likely to be the correct family):-

WEBB, Henry Head Married M 57 1854 Builder's Assistant Middlesex Rinslip
WEBB, Ellen Wife Married 37 years F 56 1855 Middlesex Harrow
WEBB, Helen Daughter Single F 26 1885 Shop Assistant London Wandsworth
WEBB, Kate Daughter Single F 19 1892 Shop Assistant London Hammersmith<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WEBB, Charles Son Single M 20 1891 Plumber London Kensington
WEBB, Gerald Son M 14 1897 Page Boy London Fulham
WEBB, Albert Son M 12 1899 School London Fulham

Address:
72 Rectory Road Fulham S W

Reference:
RG14PN349 RG78PN11 RD3 SD5 ED12 SN392

EDIT - will delete my first post as that seems to be the wrong lady.


Kath. x

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Feb 2011 22:06

Ah .... people ...

The child was born in Fulham, mother Kate Isabel Webb, no indication of any other surname so far as we know.

Why is

- a single woman who was born in Fulham and in Fulham at least in 1901, and was about 20 at the time of the birth, and whose own name was Kate Isabel Webb

not a better first choice than

- a widowed woman in Islington in 1911 who was about 35 at the time of the birth, had nothing to do with Fulham, and whose own name wasn't Webb

??


"My" Kate in 1911, I think

WEBB KATE 1890 21 Chesterton Cambridgeshire
- answers to "born in Fulham" and "servant" -- I don't subscribe for further details

I suspect she unfortunately became pregnant while employed as a domestic (like my gr-grm a generation earlier) and returned home to have her child.


Now maybe someday Beryl will return and tell us what else she knows.

patchem

patchem Report 25 Feb 2011 22:00

Sorry, was deleting, but:
Births Jun 1875
Boes Kate Isabel St. Geo.East 1c 412

Marriages Dec 1902
Boes Kate Isabel Islington 1b 343
Chapman Arthur Islington 1b 343
Treloar Beatrice Maud Islington 1b 343
Webb William Alfred Islington 1b 343

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Feb 2011 21:58

patchem! you mean the one I think is the real Kate Webb?

Kate Boes Webb is a complete red herring I think -- looking for a likely birth always seems to me to be the best first step ... I didn't want to go off doing what Beryl can and might want to do herself, but I did want to get on the right track.

How come I can't find a marriage for that Kate? ;)

Vera

Vera Report 25 Feb 2011 21:54

Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Boes Kate Isabel Islington 1b 343
Chapman Arthur Islington 1b 343
Treloar Beatrice Maud Islington 1b 343
Webb William Alfred Islington 1b 343


Regards Vera

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Feb 2011 21:52

But so as not to go too far astray, I think this is more likely the Kate in question.


Births Mar 1892
Webb Kate Isabel Fulham 1a 237


1901

Name: Kate Webb
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Webb
Mother's Name: Ellen Webb
Where born: Hamsh, London, England - it says Fulham

Civil parish: Fulham

Henry Webb 47
Ellen Webb 46
Frederick Webb 20
Hellen Webb 16
Richard Webb 13
Charles Webb 11
Kate Webb 9
Gerald Webb 4
Albert Webb 2

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Feb 2011 21:50

If the Kate Isabel Webb who was recorded as mother was a widow, her birth surname should technically have been recorded as well.

Have you told us everything you know about her?

Unfortunately, this death seems to amtch the 1911 info -- if that is the right Kate.

Deaths Sep 1931
WEBB Kate I 56 Islington 1b 259

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 25 Feb 2011 21:47

Nope the odds of anyone knowing about her seeing your message are pretty slim. A few milion to one, I'd guess!

Have you looked for her birth at FreeBMD?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

We could all do that for you but it is infinitely more fun to learn how to use it yourself and do the searching.

and you can look to see whether she married (use only middle initial, not name, after 1910).

There's also the 1911 census:

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

We're all here to help, but not to spoil your fun. ;)

Vera

Vera Report 25 Feb 2011 21:47

1911
????

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BOES, Augustin Head Married M 72 1839 Master Baker Germany VIEW
BOES, Sarah Wife Married
44 years F 70 1841 City of London VIEW
WEBB, Kate Isabel Daughter Widow F 36 1875 St Georges in the East VIEW
BOES, Florernce Beatrice Daughter Single F 34 1877 Assist In Business St Georges in the East VIEW
LANZ, Charles Employee Married M 39 1872 Journeyman Baker Islington London VIEW
DRIES, Charles Employee Married M 24 1887 Journeyman Baker Islington London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1228 Reference:
RG14PN1228 RG78PN42 RD14 SD2 ED13 SN2

Registration District:
Holborn Sub District:
Clerkenwell Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
St James and St John Clerkenwell

Address:
207 Goswell Road County:
London

Regards Vera

Beryl

Beryl Report 25 Feb 2011 21:36

In Fulham 1912 giving birth to Hilda Evelyn Webb. Does anyone know about her or her age?
Thanks. Beryl Merry