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Can anyone help me to find an entry on 1871 Census for John James Wellings born c1840 and his wife Martha Harriet (or Harriet Martha) born c 1832 in Greenwich.

I found their son Frederick age 1 but he was the first on a sheet so assume his parents were on the previous sheet ! I have tried by just searching on their names but ........... There must be a way of finding it but as a comparative 'newbie' to this don't know it.The address was Park Row (also unsure of number)
Thanks
Linda

1871 census - note spelling of surname:

Name: John Willings
[John Wellings]
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Marth Willings
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alphage
Town: Greenwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 132
Household Members: Name Age
John Willings 38
Marth Willings 39
Frederick J Willings 1

1881 census:

Name: Martha Willings
[Martha Wellings]
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: West Lean, Wiltshire, England
[West Dean, Wiltshire, England]

Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 52 Trafalgar Road
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Greengrocer

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Martha Willings 49
Frederick J. Willings 11
Charles R. Willings 9
Kathleen M. Willings 5
Emily J. Culley 19
Hannah Selby 55

Thanks so much . Must remember that one - spellings!!!!
Linda

John Whileing

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1839 — Brighton, Sussex, England
residence: Brighton, Sussex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: John Whileing
age: 42
gender: Male
birth year: 1839
birthplace: Brighton, Sussex, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession / occupation: Labourer
address: 54 Hendon St
census place: Brighton, Sussex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341254
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 1079 / 66
page number: 20

In February this year I asked for help finding John J WELLINGS , my GG Grandfather in the 1871 Census, I was new at things and hadn't thought of looking under different spelling and was very grateful for the help I got then. I hope it's ok to start another topic for him.
I can't find any trace of him in either 1841,1851 or 1871( before he married). I do know that he was born in Brighton , his parents were John WELLINGS c 1800 and Ann and had at least one sibling , a sister Anne Maria b 1832 also in Brighton.
There were other children born in Brighton to a John and Ann WELLINGS between1843 and 1848 but not sure they ' belong'
Thanks in anticipation !!

Whoops !Thanks Flick

I don't think the info on the 1861 census is the right one as far as I can see, only recognise one of the children ie Harriet M. although father's age is about right

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1851 England Census
about John J Welling
Name: John J Welling
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Servant
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: Kemp Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1s
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 1644
Folio: 369
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Laura E Call 56
Mary A Gardiner 62
Mary E Gardiner 38
Rola A M Cale 7
Blanche Cale 5
Wm G M Cale 2
Ellen L Alexander 33
James Thomas 42
John J Welling 18 <<<<<<<
Mary Ellis 63
Mary Jay 25
Mary A Cradick 29
Mary A King 30
Emily A Cross 17
George Francis 50

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1861 England Census
about John Willings
Name: John Willings
[John Wellings]
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Paddington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: London
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: St John Paddington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Piece: 7
Folio: 102
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Bartholomew G Browne 59
Mariane V Browne 29
Rosa M Browne 20
Sofia M Browne 17
Juana Browne 16
Charles E Browne 14
Henry G Browne 11
Frank A Browne 23
Ann Ford 45
Martha Hinchman 29
Harres Roper 25
Matilda Ashman 17
John Willings 29 <<<<<<<<<
John Jenkins 21

1881

John WHILEING Head M Male 42 Brighton, Sussex, England Labourer
Elizabeth WHILEING Wife M Female 51 Brighton, Sussex, England
William WHILEING Son U Male 19 Brighton, Sussex, England Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling 54 Hendon St
Census Place Brighton, Sussex, England
Family History Library Film 1341254
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1079 / 66
Page Number 20

Linda, the 1861 surname has been corrected by an Ancestry user - possibly researching the same family. You could perhaps contact him.

The two for 1851 and 1861 look good , PricklyHolly. On his son's marriage cert he was down as being a 'gentleman's servant' so it fits.
Real shame can't find 1841 to see if I can see his siblings

Ann, he died in 1875 ( fell ? jumped out of a window at The Royal Naval College , Greenwich !)

His occupation on the 1851 and 1861 is "Butler"

His wife appears on the 1861 !! Martha Hinchman - actually it's HINXMAN

Be interesting to find out who he 'butled' for !! The Browne's whoever they were

Sorry about the delay Potty.
How do I go about that ?

In the 1861 he is the "Butler" for Bartholomew G Browne..........who's occupation looks like............Merch S America Trade.
Residence: 8 Westbourne Cresent, Kensington.

Martha's occupation is "Ladies Maid"


Marriages Jun 1861 (>99%)
Hinxman Martha Kensington 1a 225
Wellings John Kensington 1a 225

Thanks,I have that certificate.
What I was hoping to find was evidence to confirm where his father , also John, was born. I think he was from Buckinghamshire but can't be sure , if so he has a brother Daniel who married in Brighton and had his children there, as did John.
I was hoping to see evidence of his Buckinghamshire birth from the 1841 so will have to keep searching, maybe using his sister Anne Maria and various spellings of Wellings !!
Thanks so much for your help
Linda