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Martin Gevert Mehrtens

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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Feb 2011 13:26

Name: Elizabeth Ann Monaghan
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1852
Baptism Date: 29 Oct 1852
Father's Name: Joseph Monaghan
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Monaghan
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets

(not sure if you have this, birthdate and address details, same as your Cert.)


England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869
about J Mehrtens
Name: J Mehrtens
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival Date: 7 Feb 1859
Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany
Ship: Schwalbe
Country of Origin/Native of: Germany

(down as Sugar Refiner)


England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869
about Martin Mehrtens
Name: Martin Mehrtens
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival Date: 11 Jun 1850
Country of Origin/Native of: Hannover, Germany

(down as Farmer)

Chris :)

(if they fit anywhere!)


Terence

Terence Report 23 Feb 2011 12:52

Thank you for all the information. I'm afraid the 1881 Census info for Martin is totally unreliable as it records his wife as also being born in Berlin and yet I have her birth certificate showing that she was born on 28 July 1852 in Red Lion Place, Wapping!

I have the 1869 marriage certificate showing his age as 21 and his father's name as John Mehrtens (farmer).

The 1846 arrival of Gevert Mehrtens certainly looks like a relative.

Terence

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Feb 2011 18:35

I would say that there's a very good chance that that is a relative Chris. Is it possible that it is his father? Name fits. Birth place fits. Occupation is the same as his, so???

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Feb 2011 18:23

England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869
about Gevert Mehrtens (Sugar Baker)
Name: Gevert Mehrtens
Port of Arrival: London, England
Arrival Date: 4 May 1846
Country of Origin/Native of: Hannover, Germany

(related perhaps?)...

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Feb 2011 18:18

If this is correct, then he was born in Hannover:-

Sugar Refiners & Sugarbakers Database

MEHRTENS Martin Gevert of Hanover (1848-1893) (after 25yrs in sugar industry, died of bronchitis aged 45)
(married St Geo East) London 1868-93
SOURCE:- Terence Chapman, Catholic Ancestor, May 2007

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Feb 2011 18:13

I notice there are other Mehrtens on this site - one of them a Marten

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Feb 2011 18:11

Martin Mehrtens Compact Disc #141 Pin #4703871 Pedigree
Sex: M

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Event(s)
Birth: 24 Mar 1855

Lubberstedt, Kirchspiel Bramstedt, Germany

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Parents
Father: Martin Mehrtens Disc #141 Pin #4703878
Mother: Anna Mehrtens Disc #141 Pin #4703876

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Feb 2011 18:10

one here earlier!!

MARTEN MEHRTENS Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 21 JUL 1814

Christening: 14 AUG 1814 Saint Katherine By The Tower, London, London, England
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Parents:
Father: MARTEN MEHRTENS Family
Mother: SARAH NEWTON
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 22 Feb 2011 18:06

Do you know his parents names, have you got the Marriage cert. ?

Chris :)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Feb 2011 18:02

1881

Martin MEHRTENS Head M Male 34 Berlin B S, Germany Sugar Washer
Elizabeth MEHRTENS Wife M Female 27 Berlin B S, Germany
Elizabeth MEHRTENS Dau Female 9 Plaistow, Essex, England Scholar
Kate MEHRTENS Dau Female 6 Plaistow, Essex, England Scholar
Martin MEHRTENS Son Male 5 Plaistow, Essex, England Scholar
Mary MEHRTENS Dau Female 10 m Plaistow, Essex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 25 Lawrence St
Census Place West Ham, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341409
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1712 / 110
Page Number 18

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Feb 2011 18:01

I know the census records say he was born in Germany, but have you considered this as a possibility?

Name: Martin Mehrtens
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stepney (To 1921)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 2
Page: 519

EDIT:-
but then again maybe not:-
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Martin Mehrtens

Name: Martin Mehrtens
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Stepney (To 1921)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 2
Page: 351

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 22 Feb 2011 18:00

Martin G Mehrtens

England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Germany
residence: England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Martin G Mehrtens
age: 43
gender: Male
birthplace: Germany
relationship to head of household: Head
record type: Census

Astra

Astra Report 22 Feb 2011 17:36

On the 1871 and 1891 he just says Germany!
Only on the 1881 I posted does he say Berlin.

AnnfromKent

AnnfromKent Report 22 Feb 2011 17:26

Hi Terence,

Research 1871 ,1881 and 1891 census - I match on each for him born in Berlin.

Astra

Astra Report 22 Feb 2011 17:21

Marriage ??

Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)
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BECKETT Katharine St. Geo. East 1c 787
Dwyer John St. Geo. East 1c 787
>>Mehrtens Martin Geford St Geo East 1c 787
>>Monaghan Elizabeth Ann St Geo East 1c 787

Astra

Astra Report 22 Feb 2011 17:13

??

Martin Mehrtens
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Mehrtens
Gender: Male
Where born: Berlin B S, Germany
Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 25 Lawrence St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Sugar Washer
Household Members: Name Age
Martin Mehrtens 34
Elizabeth Mehrtens 27
Elizabeth Mehrtens 9
Kate Mehrtens 6
Martin Mehrtens 5
Mary Mehrtens

Terence

Terence Report 22 Feb 2011 17:06

Trying to find the birth place of the above in around 1848: we are told it was in the Harz Mountains area of Germany. He came here in around 1866 and married in 1869. He was a sugar baker and died in 1893.

Any information will be welcome.

Terence Chapman