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Hi Clive welcome to the boards

Click on Lesleys name and send a private message as she did not return 18 months ago

Hi

I have just joined GR and saw your search for Stanley James Davis of Devonport.

I do not know if you solved your query, but all I can tell you is that my Mother in Laws father was a Stanley James Davis, who was married to Annie Edith Mallett in 1924.

My MIL, Thelma Davis was born in 1936. Both Thelma and Stanley, am told had no bro or sisters.

I am also told that Stanley and edith had Thelma when they were older, hence probable the 12 year gap between Wed and Birth.

I haven't got a DOB but have you tried 5b 263 / Dec 1886.

Love to see your Tree to see if there is a match somewhere

Hope this is of use.

Clive

There is another person with Stanley in their tree are you in contact?

jax

If there is a chance that the parents included him on the census even though he had died very young, it's something to keep in mind. Denial of disability, deformity or even death is something I've come across in my time.

Let us know how you get on with asking your father.

Jill

Please note what I said earlier

I have found a few with dec'd children on even one that had actually given the children occupations when they died as babies?

Not saying this is the case....but it could be

jax

Thanks Jillian and Mary. I'll have to ask my dad tomorrow if remembers anything else.
The Stanley who was born and died in 1902 cannot be the right one, seeing as he is listed as being 9 years old in the 1911 census.
I think the most likely story is that Stanley was his second name, but I still didn't find him when I tried Jillian's suggestion.

Thanks again everyone for all your help.

Mary, any chance of contacting the people on Ancestry who hold the trees?


Jill

There are 2 trees on Ancestry who say Stanley born and died 1902,it seems strange that there is only one birth for a Stanley.
maybe his name was mentioned to keep the memory alive.

Maybe the death certificate would rule him in or out.

Maryb

Is your father able to tell you what he remembers being said about Stanley? Is there a hint of an age he must have reached - you know - story about getting into bother as a teenager?

I had someone I knew for years existed but I could never find any trace of her except for her signature on her brother's cert (he was a mystery too) and my maternal grandmother's marriage cert also as a witness. Eventually I found her two changes of name and two possible fathers later but it took a long time.

So don't give up. Just keep looking.

Jill

Thanks everyone for your tips and efforts.

Mike - Leslie Arthur, born 1904, was my grandfather. My older sisters remember him mentioning Stanley. (Leslie moved to Malta and lost touch with his family in the UK, so even my father, who is still with us, did not know his aunts and uncles, but also remembers Stanley being mentioned).

Jax - the 1902 death entry couldn't be him as he is showing as being 9 years old in the 1911 census.

Jillian - the 1911 census page for Nicholas James Davis shows his wife Elizabeth, followed by 5 children starting from his second born, as his first born (also Elizabeth) was already married and listed on her husband's census form. I know absolutely nothing about Stanley, not whether he married or had children or when he would have died, or if he might have enlisted in the army (as his brothers Leslie and Sydney did) or perhaps the navy (like his father). I have tried to find him in military records but no luck there either. It's as though he never existed!

Thanks again all. If you have any other ideas please let me know as I really would like to at least have his birth certificate to take its place with that of his siblings and his parents.

I live in Malta, so it's not even a matter of popping to Devon city council's office to try and get info from there, but I guess I might just have to do that one day!

I have come across a few where they have listed the dec'd children. That death I posted is strange as I cannot see a birth to match

jax

And just a thought but the way the form was completed wasn't very good . If you look at their first attempt it reads as five children living, two died but on the second attempt it's six children living with two died.

Don't know what this contributes to the answer but....

Jill

I've just had a go myself. And I've looked up Stanley Davies aswell as Davis from March 1901 to Dec 1903 for all areas.

Do you know if he married? Double check the info you have re age and father.

Do you know when he died? Backtrack the yob from age at death?

Jill

this death looks like it could be the same family perhaps

Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Davis Stanley Leslie 0 Devonport 5b 221

On second thoughts ...

If this is brother Leslie, I doubt your Stanley was born Dec quarter 1903

Births Jun 1904 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DAVIS Leslie Arthur - Devonport 5b 312


Unless Stanley was registered late .

On second thoughts ...

If this is brother Leslie, I doubt your Stanley was born Dec quarter 1903

Births Jun 1904 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DAVIS Leslie Arthur - Devonport 5b 312


Unless Stanley was registered late .

I see what you mean Mike. Their full names are listed on all the other certicicates (for their other children, that is). I have just tried out Jillian's suggestion but still no luck. Very frustrating not to be able to find him when I've found the others! Thanks for your suggestion.
Sandra

Perhaps when GRO stated "the parents are not Nicholas James and Elizabeth ann"
they were simply down as Nicholas and Elizabeth ( no middle names)

Oh I see! Yes, I'll try that thanks. ( I'm studying my ECDL notes at the same time as keeping an eye on this so I'll have a go at that when I'm fed up with the studying!) Thanks again.
Sandra

Sorry Sandra. What I meant was get a list of the children with any given name born Devenport from about the right time then try to fit them into the Davis families on the census from Devenport. Then see what you have left over and you never know. Any good? If not I'll do one after I've done my son's pasta to show you what I mean.

Jill