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Reynolds Croydon Q4 1881 2a 212

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Clair

Clair Report 22 Feb 2011 13:49

sorry, had to disappear for a while. thomas has no definite second name, I just found a Thomas Henry Reynolds while searching, it was the closest one I could find as didn't come across one for Dartford, so basically clutching at straws.
Thomas declared 27 at time of marriage 17/7/1909.
thnx for site link Flick x

Flick

Flick Report 22 Feb 2011 13:38

Look for him with his family in 1881.

The census is FREE

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Flick

Flick Report 22 Feb 2011 13:37

Where do you get the info about a second forename for this man?

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
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JULETT Elizabeth Ann Bromley 2a 1141
REYNOLDS Thomas Bromley 2a 1141

Flick

Flick Report 22 Feb 2011 13:34

IF the census above is correct, the birth must have been earlier than Dec qtr 1881

What age did Thomas declare on his marriage cert?

Potty

Potty Report 22 Feb 2011 13:33

There are two births for a Thomas in Dartford in 1881 - either could be yours. Did Thomas have a second name on his marriage cert:

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
Reynolds Thomas Dartford 2a 417

Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
REYNOLDS Thomas Dartford 2a 431

Clair

Clair Report 22 Feb 2011 13:28

thomas marriage cert......he and his 'father' george were both labourers. marriage was 17/7/1909, st martins parish church. bothe parties were living in chelsfield, no full address. marriage witnessed by Thomas Golding & Eliza Haydon.
yes, Thomas' wife's name was misspelt as Julett, so taht is the wedding cert I have.
the 1911 census for 1 Nile Cotts makes sense as there were two older girls before my grandad in 1923 (be a long time before he shows up on a census!)
but the 1891 census looks good for Thomas' parents as he had a sister called Elvy, which is what he went on to name one of his own daughters (seemingly).
So if Thomas' parents are George & Mary, is my original index for the wrong birth cert? Back to not being able to find him again lol

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 22 Feb 2011 13:18

Somehow I don't think that would be your Thomas!

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
JULETT Elizabeth Ann Bromley 2a 1141
REYNOLDS Thomas Bromley 2a 1141

1911 census transcription details for: 1 Nile Cotts Farnboro Kent
RG14PN3694 RG78PN139 RD42 SD3 ED7 SN125


Reg. District: Bromley Sub District: Orpington
Parish: Farnborough (Except the Workhouse Which Is Seperately Enumerated) Enum. District: 7
Address: 1 Nile Cotts Farnboro Kent
County: Kent
REYNOLDS, Thomas Head Married M 28 1883 Road Labourer Dartford Kent
REYNOLDS, Lizzie Ann Wife F 24 1887 Orpton Kent
REYNOLDS, Frances Ellen Daughter F 4 1907 Farnborough Kent
REYNOLDS, Elvy Mary Mertilder Daughter F 1 1910 Farnborough Kent
TOMS, Madle Adeline Boarder F 11 1900 South Borough Kent
TOMS, Edward Leonard Boarder F 8 1903 South Borough Kent

Maybe???????
1891 census transcription details for: Trymutton, Farnborough
RG number: RG12 Piece: 633 Folio: 88 Page: 41


Reg. District: Bromley Sub District: Chislehurst
Parish: Farnborough Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District: St Giles the Abbot City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Trymutton, Farnborough
County: Kent

REYNOLDS, George Head Married M 36 1855 Labourer
Farnborough Kent
REYNOLDS, Mary Wife Married F 40 1851
Farnborough Kent
REYNOLDS, John Son Single M 17 1874 Labourer
Farnborough Kent
REYNOLDS, George Son Single M 15 1876 Labourer
Farnborough Kent
REYNOLDS, James Son Single M 12 1879
Farnborough Kent
REYNOLDS, Thomas Son Single M 10 1881
Farnborough Kent
REYNOLDS, Elvy Daughter Single F 4 1887
Farnborough Kent


Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert? Was there an actual address given for Thomas??

Maureen

Potty

Potty Report 22 Feb 2011 13:15

Yes, Clair, she is shown as Head, Widower. For some reason the older children are just shown with initials. I think Thomas Read is shown as a visitor but will look again - he is shown as a lodger.

This is the only Susan Reynolds living in Surrey coming up in 1881. If Thomas was illegitimate, he would probably have been born in the workhouse. I have checked for Susan just using initials but the only ones coming up are probably too old and in Insane Asylums.

1881 England Census
about Susan Reynolds
Name: Susan Reynolds
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Richmond, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Richmond
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address: The Elms
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Servant Domestic

Registration district: Richmond
Sub-registration district: Richmond
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Ferguson 40
Isabella A. Ferguson 34
Lilian B.L. Ferguson 14
George C. Ferguson 12
Edith J. Ferguson 9
Hugh Ferguson 4
Robert C. Ferguson 1
Albert Pantler 23
Agnes Fryen 29
Elizabeth Worth 22
Susan Reynolds 19
Ellen Neville 18

Does Thomas give his father's occupation on his marriage cert? When and where did he marry and have you found him on any census?

Clair

Clair Report 22 Feb 2011 13:10

lol doesn't look like i'm going to get much further back with no father!!
sorry potty if I'm being dim, but is Susan the head of that household in the 1891 census? seems to be a lot of young people there...can't work out who they all are!! Is she with Thomas Read but not married. or am I missing something? (sorry for silly questions!)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 22 Feb 2011 13:00

There is no father's name on that christening record meaning that Thomas is the illegitimate son of Susan. I suspect the father's name was made up for the marriage record.

Potty

Potty Report 22 Feb 2011 12:59

Clair, from the baptism that safc found, it looks as if that Thomas was illegitimate.

The nearest I can find on the 1891 census is this family but all the children are shown as born London:

1891 England Census
about Thomas Reynolds
Name: Thomas Reynolds
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: S Reynolds
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: St Botolph Aldgate
Ecclesiastical parish: Whitechapel St Pauls Dock Street
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Aldgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
S Reynolds 44
H Reynolds 23
E Reynolds 25
T Reynolds 15
William Reynolds 13 - there is birth for a William AngusReynolds in Croydon in 1878
Thomas Reynolds 10
Leonard Reynolds 8
Harold Reynolds 3
Florence Reynolds 1
E Minga 19
Thomas Read 57

I will try to find this family in 1881

Clair

Clair Report 22 Feb 2011 12:54

wow, thnx safc....am hoping as my grandad was george henry that the george came from thomas' father and the henry from his own middle name...that would make sense. Susan is a start...have never got near a mother's name, thank you.
hi flick...nothing...the other thread followed my grandad's mum's line bk. she married thomas, who's father was george, & that's still where I'm at. you all did brilliantly on her line tho x

Clair

Clair Report 22 Feb 2011 12:50

thomas married Elizabeth Ann Tullett, so I know his father's name was George, but as for his mother or going back any further, I'm having no luck.
Is it possible to go & look the cert up in person without buying it?

Flick

Flick Report 22 Feb 2011 12:49

What info were you given on your other very lengthy thread about who/when this man married?

Abby

Abby Report 22 Feb 2011 12:48

????

Name: Thomas Henry Reynolds
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Dec 1881
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peters, Croydon, Surrey, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Susan Reynolds
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02191-9
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 994340
Reference Number: item 4 p 107
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Clair

Clair Report 22 Feb 2011 12:48

ok potty thnx....thought you could view stuff online, sorry! x

Potty

Potty Report 22 Feb 2011 12:47

What was your gt grandad's wife's name?

Potty

Potty Report 22 Feb 2011 12:45

Not sure exactly what you are asking Clair. No one can look up a cert - the only way to see the details is to buy it.

This is the info for the reference you give:

Births Dec 1881 (>99%)
REYNOLDS Thomas Henry Croydon 2a 212

Clair

Clair Report 22 Feb 2011 12:42

Hi All,
I was incredibly lucky with the volunteers that were kind enough to help me yesterday & I was wondering if I could just push my luck a little further & ask if anyone would be kind enough to look up the above cert for me. the volunteers were wonderful taking my great grandmother's line back two more generations, but my great grandad's line is still a mystery. I can't match his birthplace or date for definite with any free records or trees on here, so I'm hoping this one, being the closest, is the one! Many thanks in advance for your help.
Regards,
Clair