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I've lost Elsworth Henry Segust (b. 1886) on the 1911 census. He's not with his family and I can't see him on his own.

I know that he was around somewhere as there is a record of him returning from NZ in 1928 (aged 41 and described as a steward).

I know also that the name is not an easy one to search. I've been pinging corrections off to Ancestry this morning!

I've found him on all other censuses and his marriage record etc it is just the 1911 and at the moment I am assuming he went off abroad somewhere - so the outgoing records might help.

I don't have full findmypast sub - just the 1911 so I'm struggling a bit. Hope one of you lovely people can spot him on a ship sailing off into the sunset ...

Many thanks

Jill

If he was down as a steward,then maybe he was working away as a Ships steward.

Maryb

So maybe the return trip I found was either his last trip or after he'd stopped being a ship's steward? He married a year or so later.

Jill

these are the only results for that surname and variants plus/minus 5 years male no forename so not helpful i am afraid

SEGUIST H J Adult M 1920 Glasgow Canada Quebec VIEW VIEW
SEGUS S S 1884 M 1908 Liverpool Canada Quebec VIEW VIEW
SEGUSS Fred 1883 M 1901 Liverpool Canada Quebec VIEW VIEW
SEGUSS L Adult M 1940 Liverpool Canada Halifax VIEW

Hi Ladykira - thanks for looking for me. I think the surname is a bit of a problem in all of this.

But, thank you.

Jill

Elsworth William Segust

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
birth: 02 Jul 1863
residence: London, England
parents: George Henry Segust, Harriett

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Elsworth William Segust
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Oct 1867
baptism/christening place: SAINT DUNSTAN,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
birth date: 02 Jul 1863
father's name: George Henry Segust
mother's name: Harriett
indexing project (batch) number: C05576-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number:

Elsworth Hy Segust

England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Little Ilford, Essex
residence: England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Elsworth Hy Segust
age: 5
gender: Male
birthplace: Little Ilford, Essex
relationship to head of household: Son
record type:

do you have this ?


New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Elsworth Henry Segust
Electoral Year: 1928
District: Auckland Central
Region or Province: Auckland


Residence - SS Manaia
Occupation - Steward

ELSWORTH WILLIAM SEGUST Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth: 02 JUL 1863

Christening: 20 OCT 1867 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
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Parents:
Father: GEORGE HENRY SEGUST Family
Mother: HARRIETT
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Hi Anne - thank you - I have most of that so will check the other bits. Elsworth's father was not called Elsworth - so the other Elsworth is an uncle. It seems to be given to one of the boys in every generation that I've found - interesting name to search for I'm quite enjoying it all!

Choccy - thank you! That definitely pins him down in NZ if he was on the ER ... he must have been a bit static for a while. Thank you.

Jill

Residence was a ship ... a different ship to the one he travelled back on in March 1928 ... interesting.

Hmmm.

Jill

SS Manaia looks to have been wrecked in 1926 - perhaps he was stuck in NZ for a while - unless it was a different SS Manaia



http://www.ohinemuri.org.nz/journal/44/ss_mania.htm


Part of the text -

'On the night of Thursday 10 June 1926, the vessel Manaia ran aground on the south eastern point of Slipper Island, off the coast of Tairua. The Manaia was a vessel of 1159 tons, with a length of 220 feet and belonged to the Northern Steam Ship Co. At the time of the wreck she was on her regular run from Tauranga to Auckland, under the command of Captain W F Norbury, with a crew of 36. There were also 55 passengers aboard.'

Ooh Choccy - looks interesting. There was an article in the recent FH magazine about a shipwreck in Oz and there are probably some sites and reference in there. I will go and dig it out.

Thank you

Jill

The ship ws originally SS Rotoiti built in Dumbarton in 1898 renaimed in 1912,some great photos and info on Google.

Maryb

Thank you Mary!

Jill

MANAIA
Plowman
See ROTOITI



MANAIA 1898
Steamer Wreck Book
Built in Scotland in 1898 of 630 tons she sank on 10th June 1926
off Slipper Island, Coromandel.


MANAIA 1898
Steamer Northern SS Co North
Built Dumbarton in 1898 of 1159tons as ROTOITI for USS Co,
renamed in 1912. Wrecked on Slipper Island 10 June 1926.


MANAIA 1926
Steamship NSSCo Tairua
Of 1159 tons this vessel was wrecked on the rocks of Slipper
Island off Tairua on 10/6/1926, the wreck being sold for œ105.

- Manaia The atmosphere heavy from smoke from bush fires when at 2am on the 15th January 1897, the Manaia stranded on a reef off the mouth of the Oeo River. The Manaia was a screw steamer of 81 tons gross, under the command of Captain George Archibald Simpson. The Court of Inquiry held the master responsible for going to sea with his vessel improperly equipped, and for negligent navigation. It is probably the boiler of the ?Manaia? that can be seen wedged in rocks off the mouth of the Oeo River at very low tides. Probably the anchor found in the 1960s in the same vicinity and now on the memorial to the crew or ?Lizzie Bell? at the Pihama Cemetery, belongs to this ship and not the ?Lizzie Bell.?

I can feel a whole new research project coming on ...

Jill

feeling it with you Jill!!!!