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I ordered possible death certificates for Thomas Richardson, all I knew was
that he died after 1916 but before 1924. I found one where a Thomas died 2nd June 1922 aged 72 in Lambeth and the death certificate showed heart disease and an inquest held.

My gran had told me a story that she knew he had a heart attack while mowing the lawn. I then got hold of a newspaper report from the Norwood press June 10th 1922 which showed the inquest details and it backed up my Grans story and also mentioned his daughter Emily. I can now ascertain that this is my Thomas and he was born 1850.

This also means that the earlier census records that you have kindly given me are most likely him and his parents&step parents, which will help me on my way to finding his ancestors

Thanks again for your help
Karen

ps I have noted on my other thread about this thread - I hope that helps

Hi thanks for your suggestion, it is going to be hard to tie up, I think you are right.

I started on the Richardson thread so that if anyone else in future gets stuck in the same place as me, it will be here. I did mention my Lubbock thread, but this is really about the Richardsons I think?!?!?!

Anyway, I appreciate yours and everyone else's help
Kind regards
Karen

Karen, it would have been far better to have continued your Lubbock thread than start a new one. I would have then known that you already had the birth cert of one of the children given her name as Lubbock.

But if you order a possible birth certificate all you will know is that you have a birth cert of "A" Thomas Richardson, with no proof that he is yours.

I am hard pushed to think how you can pursue this further.

My only suggestion is you buy the birth cert of the first child, and hope it gives an occupation for him, that you can tie up with Thomas pre-marriage, cos so far we have him with 3 occupations.

Hi Mary.

Cecilia Lubbock is definitely my GG Grandmother her partner was the Thomas Richardson that I have being trying to find out about - looking most likely now to be born 1851 per the 1851 census info above.

I dont think they ever got married - possibly as someone suggested before he was already married?!?!? I was hoping to find their marriage to confirm his father's name, but I think I will try ordering possible birth certificates instead.

Thanks
Karen

I don't think the marriage in 1883 in hexham northumberland is correct as that Cecelia was born 1863 in Hexham.
1911 clearly says born Kelling Norwich.

Have you ruled Cecelia Lubbock 1863 from Kelling out?

Maryb

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/thread/1257987

Wow I've got up to lots of info and lots to check out.

I have previously looked for Thomas vs Cecilia (Lubbock) marriage to no avail (see recent Lubbock thread) even though 1911 census states they had been married 26yrs. Cecilia not previously married.

I hadnt thought of your suggestion of him being previously married but it seems quite apossibility now especially as he is also at 10-14 years older than Cecilia. Ooh I wonder if there is another family to find. Very interesting thought.

Regarding the 1881 census yes, that is the one I found. I wondered if the guy he was visiting was a relative due to age of person he was visiting, but that is a question that may/may not get answered as I get further with Thomas.

Thanks so much for all this help,
Kind regards
Karen

there is this marriage but miles from Berkshire but if Thomas was a coachman before he married this marriage is a posible..,,,

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
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MURPHY Mary Ann Hexham 10b 485
>>>>>>>REED Cecilia Hexham 10b 485
>>>>>>>RICHARDSON Thomas Hexham 10b 485
ROBSON John Hexham 10b 485

Karen do you mean this 1881

1881 census - household transcription
Person: RICHARDSON, Thomas
Address: Reeds Hill, Easthampstead

Cost:
Transcriptions are free for this set of records. You will be charged 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


census search results all search results redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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CHAPLIN, Henry Head Widower M 60 1821 Ag Lab
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Thomas Visitor Single M 30 1851 Ag Lab
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1318 Folio:
23 Page:
10

Registration District:
Easthampstead Sub District:
Bracknell Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Easthampstead Municipal Borough:
Address:
Reeds Hill, Easthampstead County:
Berkshire



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Thomas Richardson death ...the number is 2c 333 if you want to send for the death cert.,,,


Deaths Mar 1855 (>99%)
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Richardson Thomas Easthampstead 2c ___

2nd marriage for Mary Ann richardson,,,,Thomas's mother.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1857 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>Gibbins Samuel Reading 2c 579
Hobbs John Reading 2c 579
Palmer Sarah Reading 2c 579
>>>>>>>RICHARDSON Mary Ann Reading 2c 579
>>>>>>>Richardson Mary Ann Reading 2c 579

Not seeing a marriage of Thomas Richardson to a Cecilia. Thomas is likely to have been previously married, and maybe also Cecilia was.

I would suggest you get the birth cert of Emily to at least confirm the names of Cecilia.

Hi Karen..

I think Thomas must have been born in 1851 as there is this census for him and parents and siblings,,,,on the image it says for his age,,MO think that will mean a month old...


1851 census - household transcription
Person: RICHARDSON, Mary Ann
Address: Church Road, Easthampstead

Cost:
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


census search results all search results redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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RICHARDSON, Mary Ann Wife Married F 33 1818
Warfield
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Thomas Son M
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Mary Ann Daughter F 2 1849
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Frances Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Henry Son M 7 1844 Scholar
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Emma Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836
Winkfield
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Cornelius Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Bricklayers Labourer
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Thomas Head Married M 43 1808 Bricklayer
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW

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RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1694 Folio:
629 Page:
10

Registration District:
Cookham Sub District:
Enumeration District:
4B Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Easthampstead Municipal Borough:
Address:
Church Road, Easthampstead County:
Berkshire



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Thanks for this - I really appreciate it. Its given me a new lead to follow.
Karen

1861 Census for thomas born 1851/53


1861 census - household transcription
Person: RICHARDSON, Thomas
Address: High Road, Warfield

Cost:
You will be charged 5 credits for a transcript and 5 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records.


census search results all search results redefine current search
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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GIBBINS, Samuel Head Married M 44 1817 Cordwainer
Elvetham
Hampshire VIEW
GIBBINS, Mary A Wife Married F 43 1818
Warfield
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Frances Stepdaughter F 14 1847 Scholar
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Thomas Stepson M 10 1851 Scholar
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, Sophia Stepdaughter F 9 1852 Scholar
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
RICHARDSON, James Stepson M 6 1855 Scholar
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
GIBBINS, Sarah Daughter F 4 1857
Easthampstead
Berkshire VIEW
GIBBINS, George Son M 3 1858
Warfield
Berkshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG09 Piece:
755 Folio:
92 Page:
10

Registration District:
Easthampstead Sub District:
1 Bracknell Enumeration District:
7 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Warfield Municipal Borough:
Address:
High Road, Warfield County:
Berkshire



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Could someone see if he shows up in the 1861 or 1871 census for me - please

Thanks, Sorry I wasnt clear before! Too many Thomas'

Emily's birth,,,,


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1888 (>99%)
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RICHARDSON Emily Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 489