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Hi Ozi,

Thanks for replying. I have had a look at 1881, 71 & 61 but there are a few Thomas Whitings. His occupation was a Labourer. There was a Thomas with a William son in the 1881 census but not sure if correct
.

If you can help me i would be very grateful.

Josie

Thanks for getting back, Josie. How did you go with finding him?

Do you know the father's occupation, or didn't they bother as he was deceased?

Ozi

Hi Liz,

I have received William Whiting's marriage certificate today, his father's name was Thomas Whiting he was deceased on the certificate.

I will look into it on the census

Thankyou again for your help & interest

Josie

Hi Liz

Just to let you know i have not received the marrage certificate as yet, hope it will come sometime next week.

Josie

You're welcome Josie. Just mind and let us know what you find out when you receive the marriage certificate.

Liz

Hi Alviegal,

Thankyou for the info im really grateful for your help and all your colleague's that have helped me also.

Josie

Emma's family in 1881 for reference.


ARNOLD, Mark Head Married M 36 1845 Plate Layer
Berkswell
Warwickshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Eliza Wife Married F 36 1845
Walsall
Staffordshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Alice Daughter Single F 16 1865 Lacquerer
Walsall
Staffordshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Emma Daughter Single F 13 1868 Warehouse Girl
Wednesbury
Staffordshire VIEW
ARNOLD, William Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Walsall
Staffordshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Charles Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Walsall
Staffordshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Thomas Son Single M 1 1880
Birmm
Warwickshire VIEW
RG number:
RG11 Piece:
2988 Folio:
71 Page:
6

Registration District:
Birmingham Sub District:
St Martin Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Birmingham Municipal Borough:
Address:
17, Court, House Bordesley St, Birmingham County:
Warwickshire



Her father's family in 1851.

ARNOLD, Thomas Head Married M 36 1815 Railway Labourer
Berkeswell
Warwickshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Sarah Wife Married F 35 1816
Berkeswell
Warwickshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Elizabeth Daughter F 11 1840 Scholar
Berkeswell
Warwickshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Mary Ann Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Berkeswell
Warwickshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Mark Son M 7 1844 Scholar
Berkeswell
Warwickshire VIEW
ARNOLD, John Son M 5 1846 Scholar
Berkeswell
Warwickshire VIEW
ARNOLD, Emma Daughter F 1 1850 Scholar
Berkeswell
Warwickshire VIEW
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
2063 Folio:
292 Page:
17

Registration District:
Meriden Sub District:
Meriden Enumeration District:
5D Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Berkswell Municipal Borough:
Address:
Dockers Lane, Berkswell County:
Warwickshire


1841

ARNOLD, Thomas M 25 1816 Warwickshire ag lab
ARNOLD, Sarah F 20 1821 Warwickshire
ARNOLD, William M 4 1837 Warwickshire
ARNOLD, Eliza F 1 1840 Warwickshire
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1129 Book/Folio:
3/62 Page:
10

Registration District:
Meriden Sub District:
Meriden Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Berkswell Municipal Borough:
Address:
Berkswell Common, Berkswell County:
Warwickshire

Ozi

I will let you all know, You have all helped me on several of my searches already , i cant thankyou all enough it is so addictive but i love it. I have sent for the marriage certificate of William & Emma, i have also traced the Arnolds on the census back to 1851 still trying on 1841.

Thanks again Josie

That's great, Josie.

Please return to this thread and let us know the result. We helpers always like to see how people's searches are going.

Happy hunting,
Ozi

I havnt got marriage cert of Emma & William i wiil send for them that will help me now i know when they got married in 1891 in Aston

Thanks again

Josie

I have got census of Emma Arnold 1871 & 1881 but no other certs

Thanks again for your help

Josie, we assumed you had the 1891-1911 censuses but WE hadn't seen them. Every little bit of information helps in this game.

Have you got g-grandfather's marriage cert to Emma Arnold?

Ozi

Hi Everyone,
Thankyou for info i have got 1911, 1901 & 1891 census, they seem to be correct according to info from living family i do have marriage cirt of William's son so i know William is grgrandad

Josie

There is this familyhistory website which might be worth signing up to. I couldn't find a birth for him so maybe Ozi is correct about not being born in the county. I signed on to this very easily and perhaps they could help you.
The marriage certificate is definitely needed.

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/

Thanks. He's pretty sure on being born in Gloucestershire, isn't he?

Ozi

Sorry Ozi, I should have said the 1871 found by Lindsey* and this should rule him out.

Liz

Except, alviegal, this is William R in 1891, and I'm pretty sure William Whaling/Whiting is the one we're looking for.

William R Whiting abt 1868 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Cirencester, Gloucestershire

Any chance of the 1901 family on 1911?

Ozi

This appears to be the one in the 1871 census.

1911

WHITING, William R Head Married M 44 1867 Maltsters Labourer Glostershire Cheltenham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
15438 Reference:
RG14PN15438 RG78PN939 RD329 SD2 ED7 SN229

Registration District:
Cirencester Sub District:
Cirencester Enumeration District:
7 Parish:
Cirencester

Address:
9 Querns Hill Cirencester County:
Gloucestershire


This is the one married to Emma. 9 children, 7 still living.

WHITING, William Head Married M 41 1870 Labourer Gloucester Shire NR VIEW
WHITING, Emma Wife Married
21 years F 42 1869 Staffordshire Walsall VIEW
WHITING, William Son Single M 19 1892 Labourer Warickshire Bham VIEW
WHITING, Eliza Daughter Single F 18 1893 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
WHITING, Emma Daughter F 14 1897 Chadelier Driller Warwickshire Bham VIEW
WHITING, Mark Son M 10 1901 School Warwickshire Bham VIEW
WHITING, Alice Daughter F 12 1899 School Warwickshire Bham VIEW
WHITING, Albert Son M 4 1907 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
WHITING, Beatrice Daughter F 2 1909 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
18233 Reference:
RG14PN18233 RG78PN1101 RD385 SD3 ED3 SN223

Registration District:
Aston Sub District:
Duddeston Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Aston

Address:
170 Lawley St Birmingham County:
Warwickshire

These are the only Whitings living in the district, but isn't looking too hopeful.

1871 England Census
Name: Stephen Whiting
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
[1848]
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah A Whiting
Gender: Male
Where born: Kemble, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: West Dean
Ecclesiastical parish: Bream
Town: Bream Eaves
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Occupation: Miner

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub-registration district: Coleford <<<<<<<<
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Whiting 33
Sarah A Whiting 23 - West Dean

Marriages Mar 1871
Birt Sarah Anne Monmouth 11a 24a
Whiting Stephen Monmouth 11a 24a

If you haven't done so already, you need to get their marriage cert.

Marriages Mar 1891
Arnold Emma Aston 6d 301
Whiting William Aston 6d 301

This will give his father's name and occupation.

It looks like he thinks he was born in Coleford but he may have moved there as a small child.

Ozi