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Crummitt/Tooby of Halifax

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Foxglove

Foxglove Report 12 Feb 2011 00:37

I am looking for the marriage of Emma Sharp, baptised 1879 Lincolnshire. I know she was married to a Mr Crummitt and they had one daughter Mary, born c1913, who married Fred Tooby. Emma lived at Westbourne Grove, Salterhebble Halifax for most of her married life I believe. I cannot find a marriage for Emma to Mr Crummitt, nor the birth of Mary nor her marriage. Please can I ask if anyone can help?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 00:54

don't know where you looked for the marriage


we all use www.freebmd.org.uk .... it's free and excellent


Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)

>>>>Crummett Allan Halifax 9a 826
Dodgson Thomas William Halifax 9a 826
Littlewood Lucy Marian Halifax 9a 826
>>>>Sharpe Emma Halifax 9a 826



I asked for marriage of a Crumm*, where * is a wild card, and an Emma





sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 00:58

either do a 1911 Census search or ask for someone to do a search on the 1911 for you

there are several Crummett's registered in Halifax between 1900 and 1920 or so


This is probably your "Mary"


Births Dec 1913 (>99%)

CRUMMETT KATHLEEN M SHARPE Halifax 9a 655



sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Foxglove

Foxglove Report 12 Feb 2011 00:59

Oh well I looked on there but didn't find anything! I didn't know you could use a wild card, so thank you.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:01

Have you any idea when Mary married Fred Tooby?

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Foxglove

Foxglove Report 12 Feb 2011 01:02

Thank you Sylvia, yes that is her! I had forgotten Mary was her middle name, but I couldn't find any Crummetts on the census returns for 1901 or 1911. Maybe it is time I gave up for tonight!!!!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:04

Here you are


it looks as if it was Kathleen Mary's second marriage . that's why she is entered under two names


Marriages Mar 1949 (>99%)

Crummett Kathleen M Tooby Halifax 2b 1311
Tooby James F Wilson Halifax 2b 1311
Tooby James F Crummett Halifax 2b 1311
Wilson Kathleen M Tooby Halifax 2b 1311



and here is the first marriage

Marriages Sep 1944 (>99%)

CRUMMETT Kathleen M Wilson Halifax 9a 954
WILSON Walter Crummett Halifax 9a 954







sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Foxglove

Foxglove Report 12 Feb 2011 01:05

Sylvia, I think Mary and Fred would get married in Halifax as they lived in that area all their lives as far as I know. I think Fred had been married before.

Foxglove

Foxglove Report 12 Feb 2011 01:07

Oh I thought it was Fred who had been married before! That has been a well kept family secret if it was Mary! The first skeleton I have found!!!!

Foxglove

Foxglove Report 12 Feb 2011 01:11

Sorry, I meant to say in that message above that we had been under the impression that Fred had been divorced, so maybe it was Mary or perhaps both of them.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:12

from ancestry


1901 Census

Name: Allan Crummett
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emma Crummett
Gender: Male
Where born: Sowerby Bridge, Yorkshire West Riding, England

Civil Parish: Luddenden Foot
Ecclesiastical parish: Sowerby Bridge Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Sowerby

Allan Crummett 25 Boot Maker
Emma Crummett 22 b.ca 1879, Boston, Lincolnshire

Address:- 3 Rose Grove


Living about 3 doors away are:-

Name: John Crummett
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah A Crummett
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Luddenden Foot
Ecclesiastical parish: Sowerby Bridge Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Sowerby

John Crummett 56 Worsted Spinning Overlooker
Sarah A Crummett 54
James W Crummett 24 Grocers Assistant
Jane Eliza Crummett 20 Worsted Hanker

Adrress:- 1 High Royal



could these be his parents???




sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:13

I would hazard a guess that Mary's first husband might well have been killed ... she did marry him in 1944, during WW2

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:14

If you buy her marriage certificate it will tell you whether she was widow or divorced when she married Fred.






sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Foxglove

Foxglove Report 12 Feb 2011 01:15

Many thanks Sylvia, you are so helpful. Now can I ask - how would I find out if Mary or Fred had been divorced? I have looked for a death for Walter Wilson but can't find one and I am sure there was some family scandal about a divorce (well, in those days it was a scandal).

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:18

using free search of the 1911


HOUSEHOLD CRUMMETT ALLAN M 1876 35 Halifax Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CRUMMETT EMMA F 1879 32 Halifax Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CRUMMETT MARIAN F 1905 6 Halifax Yorkshire West Riding


Plus these two

HOUSEHOLD CRUMMETT WILLIS M 1872 39 Halifax Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD CRUMMETT EMILY F 1870 41 Halifax Yorkshire West Riding



I don't have a subscription so I can't look to see what the relationships are





sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:19

Not sure how you look for a divorce ......... go to National Archives I think

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:20

have you looked carefully on Commonwealth Graves etc

...... Walter Wilson might have been killed in Europe or died anywhere else in the UK

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:23

Fred may well have been married before ...... unless there are two James F Tooby's


Marriages Dec 1936 (>99%)

Sanderson Nellie Tooby Halifax 9a 909
Tooby James F Sanderson Halifax 9a 909





sylvia

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Foxglove

Foxglove Report 12 Feb 2011 01:26

thank you, I never thought of looking on the Commonwealth Graves for a war death. I will do that tomorrow as it is early hours of the morning here and my eyes are straining!!!! Many many thanks, I am really grateful for your help.

Jennifer

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 01:37

you're very welcome

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.