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Tricky One

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Feb 2011 04:21

I'm re-posting the marriage that MadBull posted ...... maybe Barry will understand it better in this format

it's from www.familysearch.org/#form=advanced-records ......... the new familysearch site. It's FREE to use!


record title: England Marriages, 1538–1973

groom's name: Daniel Harvey
groom's birth date: 1871
groom's age: 24
bride's name: Emily Thomasson
bride's birth date: 1873
bride's age: 22
marriage date: 1895
marriage place: Chesterton, Stafford, England
groom's father's name: Joseph Harvey
bride's father's name: George Thomasson
indexing project (batch) number: M16625-2
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1470941



now, unless she removed 9 years from her age


this shows that she was 22 in 1895, making her birth year 1873



so the Emily you mention in your opening post is NOT the correct one.


The mother of your Dad was born in 1873




sylvia

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 11 Feb 2011 23:36

Using that 1881 census for names you will find the marriage index of parents George and Rebekah Thomasson (spelt as Thomasson) on freebmd

same record on staffordshirebmd but this time spelt with 1 s

Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
THOMASON George PURSELL Rebecca Burslem, St John Stoke-On-Trent 3/04/145

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 11 Feb 2011 23:30

Barry

If you read through ALL the replies you will see that MadBull has given you the details of Daniels marriage including the exact date and fathers details

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 11 Feb 2011 23:24

I put both 1881 census up to show that there were 2 Emily Thomas(s)ons, not to say that the 1864 one was Barry's

Barry
surely she is Thomasson as per her birth record above - cenus records were ofter mispelt as the emumerator often had to fill them in and he wrote what he thought he heard

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
THOMASSON Emily Wolstanton Newcastle-Under-Lyme WOL/26/27

you have also been given the details from her marriage certificate - again Thomasson

Barry

Barry Report 11 Feb 2011 23:12

Still Tricky one then!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for trying

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 11 Feb 2011 23:10

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Harvey Daniel Wolstanton 6b 179
Thomasson Emily Wolstanton 6b 179

Barry

Barry Report 11 Feb 2011 23:05

Don't know where i am now, Dont know whether its Thomasson or Thompson.
Would it be possible for you to check this.
My Dads Father Daniel Harvey - Chesterton
marriage to
Emily Thomasson-
Date Dec 1895

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2011 23:02

Yes, Lancashire Ann, That's the one that someone posted earlier but it can't be her, she was born too early.
We have the marriage record in 1895 giving her age as 22 making her born 1873.
She must be the one mistranscribed as Thomson.

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 11 Feb 2011 22:55

1881 for 2nd of those Emily's?

Joseph PERCELL Head U Male 23 Norbary, Cheshire, England Iron Miner
George THOMSON Other M Male 46 Wrenbury, Cheshire, England Labourer
Rebekh THOMSON Other M Female 43 Wrenbury, Cheshire, England
Arthar THOMSON Other U Male 20 Stafford, England Iron Miner
Sarah A. THOMSON Other Female 17 Stafford, England
Mary E. THOMSON Other Female 10 Stafford, England
John THOMSON Other Male 12 Stafford, England
James THOMSON Other Male 12 Stafford, England
Emily THOMSON Other Female 7 Stafford, England
Eliza A. THOMSON Other Female 6 Stafford, England

Source Information:
Dwelling Longford St.
Census Place Wolstanton - Chesterton, Stafford, England
Family History Library Film 1341648
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2705 / 103
Page Number 35

and the 1st one

Samuel THOMASSON Head M Male 60 Wrenbury, Cheshire, England Farmer
Phoebe THOMASSON Wife M Female 75 Harthill, Cheshire, England Farmers Wife
Emily THOMASSON Serv U Female 17 Audley, Stafford, England General Servant

Source Information:
Dwelling Wrenbury Frith
Census Place Wrenbury Cum Frith, Cheshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341850
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3551 / 101
Page Number 11

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 11 Feb 2011 22:50

1881 England Census
about Emily Thomson Name: Emily Thomson(( thomasson))
[Emily Thomasson]
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolstanton - Chesterton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: Longford St.
Education:
Employment status:
Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Wolstanton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Percell 23
George Thomson 46
Rebekh Thomson 43
Arthar Thomson 20
Sarah A. Thomson 17
Mary E. Thomson 10
John Thomson 12
James Thomson 12
Emily Thomson 7
Eliza A. Thomson 6


lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 11 Feb 2011 22:42

cause of confusion maybe?

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
THOMASON Emily Audley Newcastle-Under-Lyme AUD/14/270

Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
THOMASSON Emily Wolstanton Newcastle-Under-Lyme WOL/26/27

"I'm Stumped,the dob seems correct at 37, but that does make her 48 when she had my dad."

if she was 37 in 1911 and your dad was born in 1912................

Barry

Barry Report 11 Feb 2011 22:27

I'm Stumped,the dob seems correct at 37, but that does make her 48 when she had my dad. also there was another girl "Ada" but have no details when.

Cheers

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2011 21:47

Somebody's deleting their posts here. I'm sure I saw the 1881 posted that had an Emily born 1864 and the 1911 census giving her age as 37. They're both gone!

Barry

Barry Report 11 Feb 2011 21:40

Strange this one, on my copy of 1911 census it shows her as married
F 37 1874 Chesterton Staff, with 4 children, last one being Sydney age 5

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2011 21:31

The marriage giving her DOB as 1873:

HARVEY, Daniel Age: 24 Marriage
Wife: Emily THOMASSON Age: 22
Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1895 Recorded in: Chesterton, Staffordshire, England
Husband's Father: Joseph HARVEY
Wife's Father: George THOMASSON
Source: FHL Film 1470941 Dates: 1852 - 1906

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 11 Feb 2011 21:28

I thought it curious that she was born 1864 and had a child in 1912 at age 48 but I see on the 1911 census she was born 1872. More likely.

Daniel's birth:

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Harvey Daniel Thomasson Wolstanton 6b 162

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 11 Feb 2011 21:24

Daniel Harvey
Birth Mar 1871
Chesterton,
Staffordshire,
England
Death
Parents & Siblings Joseph Harvey (1838-)
Ann (1839-)
Spouse & Children
Emily Thomasson (1873-1941)
John Harvey (1898-)
Joseph Harvey (1900-)
Elsie Harvey (1901-)
Sydney Harvey (1906-) .
Timeline 1871
Mar Birth
Chesterton,
Staffordshire,
England
Birth Index, 1837-1915 1871
Residence
Wolstanton,
Staffordshire, Age: 10 Residence
Wolstanton - Chesterton, Staffordshire,
Age: 20 Residence
Wolstanton, Staffordshire,
22 DecAge: 24 Marriage
Chesterton, Staffordshire
, Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 .

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 11 Feb 2011 21:15

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Harvey Daniel Wolstanton 6b 179
Thomasson Emily Wolstanton 6b 179

Barry

Barry Report 11 Feb 2011 21:05

Hello, trying to trace early relatives to Emily Thomasson. D.O.B June1864.
I believe she was my granmother from my Dads side of the family. My Dad was Daniel Harvey D.O.B 1912, died November 1963. any info much appreciated as far back as possible.

Cheers
Dan