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thank you so much ann and tempest,sorry it took a while to get back to you but i had a major crash on my laptop.will follow all of the addresses through and will post my finds as soon as i can.x

I did ponder on that one too for Annie

I was just going to post that tempest!

Wonder if this is Annie the sister?


1911 census - household transcription
Person: MCDONALD, Annie
Address: 36 Exe Street Toxteth Park Liverpool

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BUTLER, Julia Head Widow F 42 1869 Charwoman Philharmonic Every St L Pool Lancs VIEW
BUTLER, William Son Single M 19 1892 Clerk Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BUTLER, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 17 1894 Clerkess Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BUTLER, John Son M 14 1897 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BUTLER, Julia Daughter F 11 1900 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BUTLER, David Son M 9 1902 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BUTLER, Ada Daughter F 7 1904 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
MCDONALD, Annie Adopted Daughter F 10 1901 School Liverpool Lancashire VIEW
BUTLER, Nicholas Brother-In-Law Single M 37 1874 Dock Labourer Liverpool Lancashire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22270 Reference:
RG14PN22270 RG78PN1316 RD454 SD3 ED19 SN345

Registration District:
Toxteth Park Sub District:
Toxteth Park Central Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
Toxteth Park

Address:
36 Exe Street Toxteth Park Liverpool County:
Lancashire

1901 census - household transcription
Address: 7, Rhiwlas Street, Toxteth Park

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

MCDONALD, Andrew Head Married M 28 1873 Barman Scotland
MCDONALD, Ann Wife Married F 26 1875 Scotland
MCDONALD, Isabella Daughter Single F 3 1898 Scotland
MCDONALD, Annie Daughter Single F 0 (1W) 1901 Liverpool Lancashire
DAVIES, Ann Visitor Single F 25 1876 Sick Nurse Eastham Cheshire

Coming in a bit late on this one! Susanne is Ella ....Isabella? If she is the daughter of Andrew & Annie and born circa 1898 Scotland, could this be her in 1911 after the death of her parents.

In 1901 at 17 Beaconsfield liveed a couple called Smith, both born Scotland.

Also it may be worth contacting Liverpool record office re the workhouse records.......after the birth of her son.......she may have not been an inmate, but she may have been an "outmate" meaning she would perhaps have received food etc on a weekly basis, and there may have been personal info regarding her situation.

1911 census - household transcription
Person: MCDONALD, Isabella
Institution: Holy Trinity Certifield Industrial School Girl,




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MCDONALD, Isabella Inmate F 13 1898 School Elgin Elgin VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22194 Reference:
RG14PN22194 RD453 SD3 ED20 SN184

Registration District:
Liverpool Sub District:
Abercromby Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Liverpool

Address:
13 Nile Street Liverpool County:
Lancashire

thank you tempest for all your work,the longfellow st one really throws a spanner in the works(my auntie lived in longfellow st in the 60s) i wonder if 17 beaconfield st was a lodging house of something like that?i cant understand how she kept her baby with no father and not being able to work.i did trace her birth to scotland and her parents names as andrew and annie but i may have been looking at the wrong family.thanks againx

17 Beaconsfield Street, Toxteth Park is uninhabited in 1911

could this be Ella???

1911 census - household transcription
Person: MACDONALD, Ella
Address: 14 Longfellow Street Liverpool

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

MACDONALD, Louisa Head Widow F 56 1855 Housewife Whitehaven Underland
MACDONALD, James Son Single M 33 1878 General Labourer Cumberland Priiziington
MACDONALD, Ella Daughter Single F 25 1886 Domestic Servant Liverpool Lancs
COWMAN, Harriet Boarder Widow F 50 1861 Music Teacher Liverpool Lancs
KNOWLES, Albert Boarder M 13 1898 School Liverpool Lancs

RG number: RG14
Piece: 22280
Reference:RG14PN22280 RG78PN1317 RD454 SD4 ED2 SN9
Registration District: Toxteth Park
Sub District: Toxteth Park East
Enumeration District: 2
Parish: Toxteth Park

yes she was born in a place called archiestown in the highlands,herself and both parents came to liverpool and were both dead by 1908.ella had my grandfather in 17beaconsfield st in 1915 age 17.who owned that house and why wasnt he born in the hospital or workhouse?was the owner a relation?how did she feed a child with no huaband and not being able to work?i cant find her anywhere after 1915.ive checked marriages and deaths but come up with nothing

ella mcdonald and her son ronald born at that address 1915,i really dont think she owned the house,x

What are their names please?

its 17 beaconfield st ,ive been there a few yrs back to see what was left of the place,my grandfather was born there in 1915,but when ive tried to trace the occupants of the house ive come up with nothing.x

who are you expecting to find please???


1911 census - address transcription
Address: 17 Beaconsfield St Prescot

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

WILLIAMS, Ezra Head Married M 24 1887 Insulating Cable Machine Worker Whiston Lanc
WILLIAMS, Alice Julia Wife Married 1 years F 25 1886 Huyton Lanc
WILLIAMS, Harold Son M 0 1911 Prescot Lanc


this is West Derby but Road rather than Street

Address: 17 Beaconsfield Road Seaforth

COTTAM, William Head Married M 42 1869 Wharfinger Liverpool Lanc
COTTAM, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married 18 years F 45 1866 Liverpool Lanc
COTTAM, William Duncan Son Single M 17 1894 Clerk Liverpool Lanc
COTTAM, Robert Davies Son M 13 1898 School Liverpool Lanc
COTTAM, John Son M 11 1900 School Liverpool Lanc
COTTAM, Annie Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1903 School Liverpool Lanc


another West Derby but again Road not Street

Address: 17 Beaconsfield Road Walton L'pool

THOMPSON, Emma Head Married 12 years F 38 1873 Charing England Liverpool
THOMPSON, Agnes Daughter F 11 1900 School England Liverpool
THOMPSON, Gordon Son M 8 1903 School England Liverpool
THOMPSON, Mildred Daughter F 1 1910 England Bootle
WATSON, Mary Sister Married 3 years F 30 1881 England Liverpool
WATSON, Edna Daughter F 1 1910 England Bootle
ARMSTRONG, Sarah Sister Single F 20 1891 General Servant Domestic England Liverpool

i think the owner of the house was a woman,woman didnt have the vote in 1915 did they?may get a researcher from the liverpool records office to do a lookup for me.x

thank you k.x

Find My Past 1911 census seems to be down at the moment but will check later if someone has not already found it

thank you vic.x

try
find my past you can check the street by town or village by the census year
put in the street then the house no come up
idont think it is possible in the 1911 census but the inf would be the close period to 1915 and is very good worth the extra money
regards vic hill good luck

is it possible to trace the occupants of a house in 1915?if so could someone help me please?the address is 17 beaconsfield street,west derby,liverpool.thank you.x